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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSkudDestroyer View Post
    It's a chronic problem.
    Yep, swine flu has entered the TG forums! EEk!

    And Crombo, seriously, there is nothing that can be done by the admins to help fix the rules. The rules are there, and they've worked pretty well. The problem isn't the rules, the problem is within the players attitudes, that's all.

    Hopefully with the new UAV system, commander role will be more fun to play and more necessary for scouting ahead of your team and coordinating assaults better. When this happens, there will be most likely a CO every time, every single round, and they'll be able to assign assets. Then, I can only hope, this scenario will get better.
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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    So I did get to start a CAS squad on Quinling last night and I manned the bomber position in the two man bombing jet. Good fun and I'll have to make it a mission to sneak in more often. Thanks to everyone who joined the squad for the good time!
    Just because everyone does something does not mean that it is right to do.


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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    For you, Snoogums. Congratulations!




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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    I too award you this snooggums:


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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    Quote Originally Posted by McGann View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to A.WICKENS again.
    I can't even give rep, not being an SM and all, but if I could, I'm fairly certain I'd have the same problem.


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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupy_Norman View Post
    I set up a Tank/APC squad on kozlesk (think thats the right one) and SL'd it.
    I dont normally run these squads, nor use those assets that much. After i had lost 2 tanks to the bridge and an APC to the spandral i just gave up and we changed to an INF squad.

    I decided that id leave it to someone with more experience (not namebot, he just seemed drunk or something ) as i was clearly losing far too many tickets.

    Now alot of people would have carried on regardless wasting tickets which is why it would have been better FOR SOMEONE WITH EXPERIENCE/WHO USUALLY DOES IT TO TAKE THE REIGNS.

    Just like i can fly transport choppers till the cows come home, and usually do take them whenever possible.

    Hows that wrong Wick?
    It's not wrong, that's not my point. You made a decision to change things as you felt you were underperforming, fair play to you mate. What I sort of object to is other people trying to make that decision for you, i.e saying you are not good enough to run tanks so they can take them for themselves.

    I would rather the odd asset gets lost than have a group of players trying to dictate who can and can't use them. It appears to a lot of regulars that this is purely motivated by self interest, in fact it seems blatantly apparent. These self interested people may be superb at using the assets but no one is ever going to get any better without in game practice. Whilst that possibly applies less to Jets etc, it's not so critical when you 'crash' a tank lol.

    Everybody should have the option to occasionally try these assets, in fact per our rules they do. If they continuously waste them we have a rule for that. Plus, who decides they are wasting them, everybody gets shot down or crashes due to lag sometimes yet I've seen people jump all over players simply because they have taken and lost the asset they want.

    I don't generally use assets but I get annoyed when they get lost continuosly or get misued, unfortunately such is life, not much different to infantry squads that take the HAT kit etc yet have massively negative K/D's, costing us ticket loss. At first glance they are wasting tickets but perhaps they are defending a critical flag against overwhelming odds.

    Much as we would all like to sometimes, we can't be 100% prescriptive about what people do when they play. If we were maybe somebody would start telling you what you can and can't do next time you log on, personally I feel that would be bad.



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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    Quote Originally Posted by snooggums View Post
    So I did get to start a CAS squad on Quinling last night and I manned the bomber position in the two man bombing jet. Good fun and I'll have to make it a mission to sneak in more often. Thanks to everyone who joined the squad for the good time!
    And then you left and I didn't realise and was still calling in CAS over TS and wondering why there was silence and no coordination
    The team continued to fly two jets, but I didn't see any air support, close or otherwise, for the rest of the round.

    Please run CAS again soon, snoog.
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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    good to see that my post is derailing like how all of mine do ^^

    I had an idea... well kinda ona those thought.. we should so a round of an asset filled map like kashan and everyone who is a registered forum player not take a single asset. because usually the server is full of 60 percent regulars and 40 percent others.. i want to see the reaction of people when there are 4 inf squads on kashan


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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    Quote Originally Posted by csxgamerz View Post
    good to see that my post is derailing like how all of mine do ^^

    I had an idea... well kinda ona those thought.. we should so a round of an asset filled map like kashan and everyone who is a registered forum player not take a single asset. because usually the server is full of 60 percent regulars and 40 percent others.. i want to see the reaction of people when there are 4 inf squads on kashan
    Most of the regulars do infantry already, but they also realize that 4 infantry squads on Kashan won't likely win the round because of lack of mobility.
    Just because everyone does something does not mean that it is right to do.



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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    Quote Originally Posted by KevlarBR View Post
    That's what I like about TG. You can report people for that kind of stuff... it really pisses me off when you make a "CAS" squad and then someone makes a "Jets!" squad 2 minutes before they spawn.

    I do NOT hog assets, but sometimes I do wanna use them. However, most of the times people beat me to it or worse, 2 squads are created. Gotta love when you share and when you finally wanna use it, you can't.
    Another twist on that happened the other day on Muttrah.....3 guys created a Cobra squad and since the cobra doesnt immediately spawn they all decided to grab transport choppers and lil birds leaving some of us in a transport squad standing on the deck......
    since I had nothing to do I went and stood by the cobra spawn point....when the CAS squad noticed me standing there a couple of them started whining about someone trying to steal assets......seemed a bit hipocritical to me.......


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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wookie View Post
    Another twist on that happened the other day on Muttrah.....3 guys created a Cobra squad and since the cobra doesnt immediately spawn they all decided to grab transport choppers and lil birds leaving some of us in a transport squad standing on the deck......
    since I had nothing to do I went and stood by the cobra spawn point....when the CAS squad noticed me standing there a couple of them started whining about someone trying to steal assets......seemed a bit hipocritical to me.......
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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    From the Tactical Gamer Primer...
    1) Create an environment conducive for mature gamers to enjoy the games they play without the everyday interference from the less-than-mature gamers.

    2) Create an environment where there was mutual respect for your fellow gamers and where all members would be working together to advance the enjoyment of their hobby.
    As other have said, a new rule is not necessary. Amendments and modifications to existing rules are also not necessary. The primer covers this offensive behavior quite nicely.

    Habitual offenders need a time-out (kick) or vacation (ban) if they can't wrap their brains around the simple concept of sharing.
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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    Making specific squad names is good for your team and usually people respect it. It's not a rule on TG, but it's a really good practice. I know I don't create a duplicate squad when somebody already got it, even if I feel like playing with that asset.

    I guess I'm such a good example, a gentleman, a humble and modest man... with the biggest d**k of course.


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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    Quote Originally Posted by dbzao View Post
    Making specific squad names is good for your team and usually people respect it. It's not a rule on TG, but it's a really good practice. I know I don't create a duplicate squad when somebody already got it, even if I feel like playing with that asset.

    I guess I'm such a good example, a gentleman, a humble and modest man... with the biggest d**k of course.
    Yeah I do that too, my fellow brazilian... But usually, and not rarely, someone just makes a squad for the same asset and goes fight for it. I let it go and try it next round. Go play inf, maybe snipe and give some intel. But I wish everyone was like this.....
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    Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

    Quote Originally Posted by d1sp0sabl3H3r0 View Post
    Welcome to TG! What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine, too!
    least they didn't get my cookies.....



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