Changes to the Huey...

**TheSkudDestroyer** · 09-04-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by .87 changelog

- Removed higher hitpoints for attack huey to be in par with the other heavy attack choppers.

Yeah, what is this realism thing they're trying to do with the huey! What gives! Why would they want to promote more realisitic gameplay?

I've seen the huey before it was a flying fortress. And I've seen it while it was a flying fortress. Which one do you think was less irritating?

I'd rather play a game where we lose all the choppers in the first 10 minutes and have to stop and think of "how can we do this better?" than a game where I can just fly in, take 1 AA shot, 15 .50 caliber rounds to the main body, and unknown amount of small arms fire... Just flying in and doing "leet tactical insertions" is fine "tactics" to some

Just my opinion...

I'd like to hear the reasons why the huey is fine the way it is.

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 09-04-2009, 02:07 PM

I'll bite....

The huey is fine the way that it is because it's made asset whores out of a lot of players and made them think that they're really good at flying. Why is this ok? Because after the patch they'll be burning slag falling from the sky again, much to us the enjoyment of those that choose to do the dirty work on the ground taking and holding territory.

**TheSkudDestroyer** · 09-04-2009, 02:11 PM

Well, another thing I thought of was Operation Barracuda.

Back in the day I used to make a 3-man squad on Chinese and roll around with a medic and engy in an FAV. I recall times when we easily shot down 5 choppers. We were pretty unstoppable. So maybe a HP adjustment was called for, from a certain point of view. Or the removal of the .50's.

But, now, .50's are in pretty short supply on the battlefield. But they still got more hit points, even after the removal of the majority of .50's...

**snooggums** · 09-04-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkudDestroyer

Well, another thing I thought of was Operation Barracuda.

Back in the day I used to make a 3-man squad on Chinese and roll around with a medic and engy in an FAV. I recall times when we easily shot down 5 choppers. We were pretty unstoppable. So maybe a HP adjustment was called for, from a certain point of view. Or the removal of the .50's.

But, now, .50's are in pretty short supply on the battlefield. But they still got more hit points, even after the removal of the majority of .50's...

Transport hueys have more actual hit points than in previous versions, but their effective damage to take before failure is about the same as it was before the crash landing addition. The attack hueys either had way too many points or their failure threshold was to high which works out to the same thing.

Dispo is right about the epic fail for the first few weeks as people realize that they were unbalanced tanks for .86.

Taip3n · 09-04-2009, 02:34 PM

Actually Dispo is wrong….

It's because those that are really good at assets and so on, can take them for the sake of the team - or we would not have fun and loose, therefore loosing public as they go off to have fun elsewhere. God help TG if pubbies or players that are not proficiently experienced in battle use them, or it may be lost, loosing vital assets and tickets. Therefore, the Tank Huey should be kept in order to allow this special function of players that know how to use the asset properly, especially if there is a squad already named it and locked to ensure the happiness of all.

Such assets being in the right hands, especially for the win (because it is what the game is about isn’t it not?) and having fun, can then concentrate on meeting new people on the server and showing them what TG is all about. Surely. Without people using things such as a TOW or helicopter consistently and thankfully locking squads denoting their usage before the game starts, I, as an SL or SM, would have a hard time meeting new people and representing fun, TG, and teamplay – especially as said, if we are getting our behinds kicked. So I’m pretty upset they are going to drop the hit points, as now I may not have a laugh with others without the skilled players using such an asset; being unable to represent TG or trying my best to let public players have fun so they come back, thinking “coor great bunch and teamwork”. Surely?

I rest my case.

**TheSkudDestroyer** · 09-04-2009, 02:42 PM

My fun does not rely on an asset. Ever. Winning has always come secondary to accomplishing the mission. You can still accomplish the mission without winning the game.

EDIT: I think you are being sarcastic.

**Jeepo_SAS** · 09-04-2009, 02:53 PM

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to d1sp0sabl3H3r0 again........

**Startrekern** · 09-04-2009, 03:22 PM

Being honest with you, I thought I was a lot better with the huey even before this patch, the attack ones especially. Recently though I seem to be pretty horrible, get nervous easily and have crashed more often than I'm comfortable with. I'm not entirely sure why.

I think a balance on the hitpoints needs to be found though. Something in the middle would be nice.

EDIT: However! If they're going to drop the HP on helicopters for maps like Barracuda, more alternate transport needs to be available. Besides, that would make Coast Guard/FAV squads fun again

Another EDIT:
Also, the hydra hueys are NOT indestructible. We shot one down on Barracuda while defending docks a while back with a Chinese Autorifle, everyone in the squad firing on it, and one SA-7 shot.

The autorifle got the kill.

**A.WICKENS** · 09-04-2009, 03:34 PM

LOL says something about the realism of the autorifle doesn't it that it took down the frickin Godzilla of Choppaz!

**DarkDancer** · 09-04-2009, 03:38 PM

^^ yeah!

**Startrekern** · 09-04-2009, 03:53 PM

The autorifle is really the same gun as the normal rifle is with higher rate of fire/bigger magazine.

We had everyone full-autoing it for 20 seconds, and it brought it down along with the SA-7 shot :P

Does anyone else remember that? We'd put the firebase in a really hard-to-get place at docks.

sporkife · 09-04-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by A.WICKENS

LOL says something about the realism of the autorifle doesn't it that it took down the frickin Godzilla of Choppaz!

5.8mm goes through windshields, right? :P

**Startrekern** · 09-04-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by A.WICKENS

LOL says something about the realism of the autorifle doesn't it that it took down the frickin Godzilla of Choppaz!

I remember reading/watching something somewhere once about Huey pilots in Vietnam sitting on something thick/strong (armor-like) when they flew so they wouldn't get their balls shot off.

**mat552** · 09-04-2009, 04:01 PM

They're killable, they aren't, I don't see the big deal. All that matters is that the pilot helps the people on the ground however they can..

**Sir-Nerd** · 09-04-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Startrekern

I remember reading/watching something somewhere once about Huey pilots in Vietnam sitting on something thick/strong (armor-like) when they flew so they wouldn't get their balls shot off.

The people in the back seats would sit on their helmets.