How secure is your server? - Page 2

Cyber-Couch · 12-29-2006, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sordavie

I don't think he's accusing anyone on the TG servers of cheating. I think he's just posing a question about whether any special anti-cheating measures are taken on the TG PRM servers.

It sounds like he's suggesting that cheating is a bigger problem for the PRM mod because cheaters are much harder to catch, since players are not notified of who's killing who. It's not even that they have no name to report; it's that, since everyone on the other team looks the same, there's no real way of even suspecting that someone is cheating.

He further mentions that other servers regularly take screen shots of players rather than relying on the players themselves to notify admins of suspected cheating, and wonders whether this practice is done on the TG servers as well. I take it this is because the server admins can pick out who's who while players cannot. And, if the players cannot pick out who is who, then the players cannot report anything.

At the most, players can report things like "there's a guy on the other team with a really high k/d ratio", "there's a guy on the other team that's taking advantage of a glitch", "I got killed ten times in a row and I'm usually a lot better than that", etc... Some of the more obvious cheats a player might report because he's got direct evidence (i.e. screen shots, video, whatever) of an opposing player doing something, but I guess the problematic ones being used are those that players don't have access to (like aimbot or something).

So, telling him to report suspected cheaters on TS, to provide evidence of someone's cheating, or that TG admins take cheating seriously and ban cheaters when caught, don't appear to be relevant responses to his question. At most, he's implying that PRM demands more sophisticated anti-cheating measure than regular bf2 or POE due to the nature of kill reports, and wondering whether that's what's done on TG. I don't think he's implying that anyone on the TG server is cheating.

Actually, this is all correct and I'm sorry if my other posts were misleading. I did say in my original post that "I may have come across a few on your server," but I do not know their names since I cannot know who killed me. I'm not saying anyone in particular is cheating, but there were a few odd situations that felt like my killer was using a wall hack.

BF2 is a great game for players to report suspected hackers to the admins, but since I am talking about your PRM server, it's even harder for the players to do so. Which is why I am asking if you take punk buster screenshots of high scoring players regularly. Although I think you answered it by disregarding the question, as you more often rely on players reporting suspected cheaters - please correct me if you actually do take PBSS.

If you don't then I am suggesting you do, since admins are the best tool to get rid of and shy away hackers. Also I wanted to note that most of the cheats, punkbuster doesn't pick it up so you can't rely on PB. However; the PBSS do pick it up and you can see if they are cheating or not. This is why other servers are taking screenshots - because punkbuster doesn't detect the cheat.

Root · 12-29-2006, 04:09 PM

Cyber-Couch, thanks for clarifying.

Backlash-7 · 12-30-2006, 03:49 PM

OK I must be completely lost. I thought PunkBuster was an "anti-cheat" program that prevented hackers from getting into the game, on our server, with a 'hacked' character or code. Did I miss something? Can we (the players) do a PBSS if we get suspect a cheat and then report it to the admins? Crap, I felt sort of safe from this kind of thing by playing on TG.

**corporate** · 12-30-2006, 05:42 PM

I think it is a good idea to make it publicly known that TG takes screenshots on a regular basis as a deterrent.

I think all admins should take random screenshots of all players. No one should be above suspicion. TG should build a reputation as a server provider that does not tolerate cheating and actively works to stop it.

Bommando · 12-31-2006, 01:42 AM

I don't see any behaviour on any of our servers which would indicate cheating. If anyone is cheating, they're not doing a very good job of it because I would expect insane KD ratios from a cheater and we have many legit players who best-score without cheating.

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12-30-2006, 05:42 PM	#19 (permalink)
corporate Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN Age: 37 Posts: 395	Re: How secure is your server? I think it is a good idea to make it publicly known that TG takes screenshots on a regular basis as a deterrent. I think all admins should take random screenshots of all players. No one should be above suspicion. TG should build a reputation as a server provider that does not tolerate cheating and actively works to stop it.

12-31-2006, 01:42 AM	#20 (permalink)
Bommando Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 29 Posts: 4,294	Re: How secure is your server? I don't see any behaviour on any of our servers which would indicate cheating. If anyone is cheating, they're not doing a very good job of it because I would expect insane KD ratios from a cheater and we have many legit players who best-score without cheating.

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