Squad Tactic Clinic

Blitzer66 · 03-14-2007, 12:30 PM

Howdy TG community.

I've been playing PR for a little over a month now, so I'd say that I still am fairly new to it. What I'm not new to is squad tactic in both FPS games and real life squad tactic. Though I have no formal RL experience in this area, warfare, and military tactic are something I've spent a better bart of my life a student of. For those of you have been in a squad with me before, I would like to think that my tactical knowledge has left somewhat of an imprint in your memory...a good one anyway.

To the point...while I'm not sure if this is the proper place for this question, I would like to ask the TG community if I would be able to host a Squad tactic clinic sometime. I would like to think that "formal" training would promote an overall better public server experience for all who partake in this clinic.

Thank you for your attention to this post
-Blitzer66

Crombo · 03-14-2007, 12:40 PM

Its always a good idea to train on tactics. As a former member of the 10th mountain with a tour in Afghanistan under my belt, you can never train in tactics enough. Blitzer, if I can be of help in any way please let me know. PS I also have a major in History with a minor in military history (focus on early 19th century).

**WhiskeySix** · 03-14-2007, 12:46 PM

Hey Blitzer! Glad you found the forums! It's always good squadding up with you in-game...

Take some time to poke around here, as there's a LOT to take in! In particular, I'd recommend you checkout these three forums:

1) Rules and Standard Operating Procedures - The SOPs cover a lot of intra-squad tactics.. some are a bit out-dated and slightly impractical, but they are still rock-solid if you look at the big picture purpose of each.

2) BF2 Tactics and Missions forum - This has more high-level info... not necessarily fireteam-level tactics.

3) TGU - I think you (and Crombo) could really make a big impact getting some PR trainings up and running!

Blitzer66 · 03-14-2007, 01:05 PM

but yeah, just gettin community members involved is always kind of cool. get the people that want to learn etc etc. Too bad TGU is momentarily suspended /cry

**Dick Blonov** · 03-14-2007, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitzer66

but yeah, just gettin community members involved is always kind of cool. get the people that want to learn etc etc. Too bad TGU is momentarily suspended /cry

Get a hold of eGoatBoy or Sam Hoy. I'm sure there is an upcoming Irregulars practice. The practices cover many topics and guest DIs are always welcome.

DB

**BigGaayAl** · 03-14-2007, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitzer66

Howdy TG community.

I've been playing PR for a little over a month now, so I'd say that I still am fairly new to it. What I'm not new to is squad tactic in both FPS games and real life squad tactic. Though I have no formal RL experience in this area, warfare, and military tactic are something I've spent a better bart of my life a student of. For those of you have been in a squad with me before, I would like to think that my tactical knowledge has left somewhat of an imprint in your memory...a good one anyway.

.

Thank you for your attention to this post
-Blitzer66

!I noticed you were more of a thinking SL. Nice playing with you.

**gunjunkie** · 03-14-2007, 02:57 PM

I can vouch for Blitzer's tactical aptitude, its been great fun working with someone who is pushing for a more realistic way of positioning squads vs. simply running at the flag.

Oh, and, welcome to TG Blitzer. You're a pretty goood commander as well.

**Grunt 70** · 03-14-2007, 03:13 PM

It sounds like you are very like minded with my inhouse squad, the 1st Mechanized Infantry Platoon, and I think you even served in one of my squads recently. Check out the link in my sig to the wiki about the 1st. I think you'd enjoy playing a round or three with one of our full 1st MIP squads. We employ real life small unit tactics and operate using small fire teams. Just recently we've started to explore operating two squads simultaneously via teamspeak...12 members bringing lots of organized force to bear is quite a site.

Anyhow...welcome to TG and don't hesitate to ask for a spot in one of the 1st squads or one of my own.

**Acid** · 03-14-2007, 03:22 PM

It would be fantastic if you two would like to run / help run a few lessons regarding PRM. I took TGU down for a few weeks because we are looking to expand to other games. Post up your lesson plans / ideas in the TGU forum and the instructors will help you out.

CKneisel · 03-14-2007, 04:52 PM

Blitzer's a quality squadleader, I tag along all the time. Knows the maps well enough to make some good maneuvers, and keeps the squad well-organized (he uses that two fireteam system as well) and balanced without micromanaging people. I find a lot of squad leaders try to go overboard with what they might think are "tactics" and end up not affecting the game at all. If you're in his squad you guys will have an effect.

Blitzer66 · 03-14-2007, 11:29 PM

thanks for the positive info. I guess i can come up with some sort of lesson plan, it will be my first test as a, newly decided, education major

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Coridon · 03-15-2007, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crombo

Its always a good idea to train on tactics. As a former member of the 10th mountain with a tour in Afghanistan under my belt, you can never train in tactics enough. Blitzer, if I can be of help in any way please let me know. PS I also have a major in History with a minor in military history (focus on early 19th century).

cr0mb0's the real deal as well. Seeing a lot of sim oriented players popping up in this thread. As Grunt mentioned, 1stMIP currently bounces between PRM and ArmA. We attempt to play in a disciplined, coordinated fashion using real world tactics. Here are some good links put together by Magnum50:

Meet the Squad
Formations
Movement

Also some good reading over at 1stMIP HQ, particularly the 1stMIP handbook put together by our platoon leader and founder, JohnC.

**asch** · 03-15-2007, 07:43 AM

We'd love to see more training and education. First bet would be to work with Acid and try to get something sync'd up with TGU. If that doesn't work, contact me and we'll see what we can work out.

Riki_Rude_BTYC · 03-15-2007, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crombo

Its always a good idea to train on tactics. As a former member of the 10th mountain with a tour in Afghanistan under my belt, you can never train in tactics enough. Blitzer, if I can be of help in any way please let me know. PS I also have a major in History with a minor in military history (focus on early 19th century).

You just come back in Feb? My father just came back from Afghanistan himself.

**eGoatBoy** · 03-16-2007, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Blonov

Get a hold of eGoatBoy or Sam Hoy. I'm sure there is an upcoming Irregulars practice. The practices cover many topics and guest DIs are always welcome.

DB

Hey Crombo / Blitzer...as DB says the Irregs would love to have a guest Drill Instructor come on out. A PR practice is inevitable, and I'd be interested in working with you guys (btw, I'm the training Officer for the Irregs squad).

Irregulars practices are open to anybody at TG, and we have worked with the TGU folks as well. It's not uncommon for an Irregs practice to pull in a dozen or so attendees.

Anyway...I'll PM ya!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitzer66

...I guess i can come up with some sort of lesson plan, it will be my first test as a, newly decided, education major

.

A sample of the sorts of things we've done:
Squad basics
Room clearing
Helo practice...AAR starts about page 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by asch

We'd love to see more training and education. First bet would be to work with Acid and try to get something sync'd up with TGU. If that doesn't work, contact me and we'll see what we can work out.

...count the Irregs in to help as needed Asch!

Cheers,

03-14-2007, 12:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Blitzer66 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 66	Squad Tactic Clinic Howdy TG community. I've been playing PR for a little over a month now, so I'd say that I still am fairly new to it. What I'm not new to is squad tactic in both FPS games and real life squad tactic. Though I have no formal RL experience in this area, warfare, and military tactic are something I've spent a better bart of my life a student of. For those of you have been in a squad with me before, I would like to think that my tactical knowledge has left somewhat of an imprint in your memory...a good one anyway. To the point...while I'm not sure if this is the proper place for this question, I would like to ask the TG community if I would be able to host a Squad tactic clinic sometime. I would like to think that "formal" training would promote an overall better public server experience for all who partake in this clinic. Thank you for your attention to this post -Blitzer66

03-14-2007, 12:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Crombo Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 58	Re: Squad Tactic Clinic Its always a good idea to train on tactics. As a former member of the 10th mountain with a tour in Afghanistan under my belt, you can never train in tactics enough. Blitzer, if I can be of help in any way please let me know. PS I also have a major in History with a minor in military history (focus on early 19th century).

03-14-2007, 12:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
WhiskeySix Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gillette Stadium, Section 309, Row 12, Seat 24 Age: 33 Posts: 8,277	Re: Squad Tactic Clinic Hey Blitzer! Glad you found the forums! It's always good squadding up with you in-game... Take some time to poke around here, as there's a LOT to take in! In particular, I'd recommend you checkout these three forums: 1) Rules and Standard Operating Procedures - The SOPs cover a lot of intra-squad tactics.. some are a bit out-dated and slightly impractical, but they are still rock-solid if you look at the big picture purpose of each. 2) BF2 Tactics and Missions forum - This has more high-level info... not necessarily fireteam-level tactics. 3) TGU - I think you (and Crombo) could really make a big impact getting some PR trainings up and running! __________________ *PoE2 Version 2.5 Overview \| Get started with PoE2 (for free!)*

03-14-2007, 01:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Blitzer66 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 66	Re: Squad Tactic Clinic but yeah, just gettin community members involved is always kind of cool. get the people that want to learn etc etc. Too bad TGU is momentarily suspended /cry

03-14-2007, 02:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
gunjunkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 1,293	Re: Squad Tactic Clinic I can vouch for Blitzer's tactical aptitude, its been great fun working with someone who is pushing for a more realistic way of positioning squads vs. simply running at the flag. Oh, and, welcome to TG Blitzer. You're a pretty goood commander as well. __________________ Do or do not, there is no try.... -- Yoda, Dagobah

03-14-2007, 03:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
Grunt 70 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 43 Posts: 2,504	Re: Squad Tactic Clinic It sounds like you are very like minded with my inhouse squad, the 1st Mechanized Infantry Platoon, and I think you even served in one of my squads recently. Check out the link in my sig to the wiki about the 1st. I think you'd enjoy playing a round or three with one of our full 1st MIP squads. We employ real life small unit tactics and operate using small fire teams. Just recently we've started to explore operating two squads simultaneously via teamspeak...12 members bringing lots of organized force to bear is quite a site. Anyhow...welcome to TG and don't hesitate to ask for a spot in one of the 1st squads or one of my own. __________________ \|TG-22nd\|Grunt "When force is necessary, it must be applied boldly, decisively, and completely. But one must know the limitations of force; one must know when to blend force with maneuver" - Leon Trotsky

03-14-2007, 03:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Acid Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MA Posts: 3,581	Re: Squad Tactic Clinic It would be fantastic if you two would like to run / help run a few lessons regarding PRM. I took TGU down for a few weeks because we are looking to expand to other games. Post up your lesson plans / ideas in the TGU forum and the instructors will help you out. __________________

03-14-2007, 04:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
CKneisel Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2	Re: Squad Tactic Clinic Blitzer's a quality squadleader, I tag along all the time. Knows the maps well enough to make some good maneuvers, and keeps the squad well-organized (he uses that two fireteam system as well) and balanced without micromanaging people. I find a lot of squad leaders try to go overboard with what they might think are "tactics" and end up not affecting the game at all. If you're in his squad you guys will have an effect.

03-14-2007, 11:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Blitzer66 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 66	Re: Squad Tactic Clinic thanks for the positive info. I guess i can come up with some sort of lesson plan, it will be my first test as a, newly decided, education major .

03-15-2007, 07:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
asch Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fort Mill, SC Age: 33 Posts: 9,836	Re: Squad Tactic Clinic We'd love to see more training and education. First bet would be to work with Acid and try to get something sync'd up with TGU. If that doesn't work, contact me and we'll see what we can work out. __________________ \| My Maps Gaming Videos by Tactical Gamers Fear the Frog! \| Kill the Frog! \| An Inconvenient Truth "Support game play in a near-simulation environment. Where the focus of play would not be solely on doing what it takes to win, but doing so utilizing real-world combat strategy and tactics rather than leveraging exploits provided to players by the design of the game engine, regardless of the level of advantage, if any, it gives over the opposing team." -- Tactical Gamer Primer

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