Originally Posted by ickyp

Perhaps a mod of some sort could attach an extra long death timer to certain types of kills and self-kills. As a regular SF player, I would be willing to accept a penalty like that if I failed to get myself far enough away from my C4. I have also done other somewhat questionable things which could warrant a long death timer, like dropping a grenade at my feet or launching artillery right on my own head. You have to do these things sometimes!

Yes, I would love to see something like this. Making that suicide run cost you an extra 15 seconds(or more) spawning would go a long way towards putting Spec-ops in their place as demolitions and not AT. (Extending this to ramming in the air or any other "suicide" behavior would be nice too.) I was considering suggesting a minimum range of detonation attached to the trigger that would completely prevent self killing with C4, but I kinda like this spawn time option better, it gives the player a choice.

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For those saying that they won't even hesitate to pull the trigger as soon as they hear any bullets flying overhead...I personally don't like this sort of behavior. Agreed, it's better than running in with the intent to blow yourself up, but it effectively amounts to the same thing.

Often in a tank or APC my squad has spotted a SF sprinting towards me but by the time I turn to that direction he is under the turret's range. Thats fine, we missed him coming in so now I've been planted, but I think that having so blatantly blown his cover to get in like that, he should have a hard time getting out to detonate...

If you can't get in, plant, *and* get back out to cover before detonating, then I think the guys covering that tank with small arms fire deserve enough respect from you to not blow the trigger so early.

The manpower and coordination required to do this should also be at least on par with that required of the class specifically designed to take out armor. AT need two guys to coordinate themselves well enough to get two well placed shots together on the armor at once in order to take it out. I believe the SF guy should have to utilize at least an equal level of force and coordination to be effective against the same threat. This means at least one other friendly making a big enough ruckus to distract the armor and his squad while the SF makes his plant and escape.


- Again I will point out my support of the suggestion quoted at the top of this post. While likely fairly tricky to implement, I think a mod like this would shut down all the things I dislike about C4 use without players having to conciously exercise forethought and respect in the heat of battle.