Re: Negative Publicity

**Thierry** · 01-28-2006, 02:56 PM

That would be abuse of the team's vehicle I think, other squads could use that Black Hawk for something far better.

**Jusb** · 01-28-2006, 05:35 PM

I dont see what the fuss is. If you are NOT repeatedly using vehicles as suicidal objects (and to ruin others fun) whats the big deal. If you take the blackhawk or another chopper and successfullly insert your team and have no more use for it whats the difference of putting it to use to try and take out another vehicle like a tank as mentioned before.

How many times have you seen an entire squad bail out a helo and let it crash to the ground? Or worse yet, set it down all nice and neat for someone else to pick it up from the other team, then no one on your team gets to use it. I'd say using it as a weapon (one man suicidal or not) is the better logistical use of that asset to me...

Plenty of squads blow up their own vehicle assets to facilitate a faster spawn so another squad holding the spawn flag can use the asset. My squads blow up buggies and jeeps all the time when we get to our dismount point.

We also C4 and mine the front wheels on APC's and tanks if we move out and leave a flag unattended. Isnt that almost the same thing -- if another squad shows up at the flag they get teamkilled for grabbing an asset if they weren't paying attention -- yet that's considered a perfectly acceptable tactic.

If you're gonna blow it up might as well make it of some tactical use by taking out what you can with you -- if you can escape before it blows than more power to you.

**Pickle** · 01-28-2006, 06:58 PM

Good points Jusb. I am going to have to re-think this.

**wushuhero** · 01-28-2006, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Jusb

How many times have you seen an entire squad bail out a helo and let it crash to the ground? Or worse yet, set it down all nice and neat for someone else to pick it up from the other team, then no one on your team gets to use it. I'd say using it as a weapon (one man suicidal or not) is the better logistical use of that asset to me...

I NEVER bail out of a perfectly good chopper, though I see it happen all the time and I hait it, escpecialy(sp) if I see the SL jump out as well, A BH provides a very good spawn point and could be the difference between a successful flag capture

I will fly that baby till the end, UNLESS I am a SL, I will bail, IF I know that theres no chance for repair, and I need to provide a valid spawn point for my squad

**Jusb** · 01-28-2006, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by wushuhero

I NEVER bail out of a perfectly good chopper, though I see it happen all the time and I hait it, escpecialy(sp) if I see the SL jump out as well, A BH provides a very good spawn point and could be the difference between a successful flag capture

I will fly that baby till the end, UNLESS I am a SL, I will bail, IF I know that theres no chance for repair, and I need to provide a valid spawn point for my squad

i just dont understand all the bitching and moaning. Are you supposed to fly the chopper back to the heli-pad when you're done with it, leaving your squad one man short in the attack and then take another vehicle all the way back to them? Should you set it down and have to sit one man in it and/or defend it like a flag? That's what you would do in the real world, but the game mechanics and nature of the game dont facilitate stuff like that. There's "real" and game "real" which has been debated over and over a million times here.

There are the iron-clad TG rules, then there are the TG Gentleman's Rules (new guys use search) and i think we've clouded the lines of both over the last few weeks/months.

To me the griefing and exploiting the engine type gameplay violations are your major problems. Not the petty nitpicking stuff (like crashing a Helo or killing someone with a noob tube) thats been popping up on this forum and in game -- when i've had a chance to actually play recently...

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