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Old 01-22-2006, 03:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Exclamation Practice Update for 1/24/06

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Here is the scoop. We had a less than stellar attendance to the Fri night practice. A lot of people who attended that practice said they would not be able to make this Tues night. So unless we have a better sign up for this practice I think I will have to cancel this practice. I don't mean this as a threat but I personally need to maximize my time and I have been spending a lot of time doing Irregular stuff and lets just say the wife is none to thrilled about it. This does not mean if some of you still want to get together on the sever then by all means go for it. I'm sorry fo r being so straight forward here guys but I think honesty is the best policy. I will leave it up to you guys if we get a real good response I will try and make it worth our time if not we will do our best at the scrim this coming Sat Jan 28th 8pm est.

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Old 01-22-2006, 09:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I'll be able to make Tuesdays practice.
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I will be there...no doubts.
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Here is the scoop. We had a less than stellar attendance to the Fri night practice. A lot of people who attended that practice said they would not be able to make this Tues night. So unless we have a better sign up for this practice I think I will have to cancel this practice. I don't mean this as a threat but I personally need to maximize my time and I have been spending a lot of time doing Irregular stuff and lets just say the wife is none to thrilled about it. This does not mean if some of you still want to get together on the sever then by all means go for it. I'm sorry fo r being so straight forward here guys but I think honesty is the best policy. I will leave it up to you guys if we get a real good response I will try and make it worth our time if not we will do our best at the scrim this coming Sat Jan 28th 8pm est.
That sounds fair enough, no one is going to hold that against you. I myself have run into that "irreg takes over life" scenario at various points and every time i have taken a step back for a few days someone else has taken up the reins in a fine manner. Remember, we are "irregs". Everyone appreciates the work you do but it shouldnt be to the detriment of the real world stuff that we all have.

[arsekicking]It is a shame that more people havent rallied around this. As always it is the "core" guys who try and make attendance and of course a fair few wont be able to make it. What we really need is the support of all those silent members we have. Where are you guys? Most of you signed up saying you wanted to be involved in training/scrims etc and yet now that the opportunities have been put up they are being squandered. The scrim league sign up was poor, training sign up was poor. Why is this people? I have seen members on Server 1 while scrim league games are under way (those that havent signed up rather than those who have). Why are you not clammering to be on the list? We now have our own private training time on a server which has been kindly provided by the admins and drizzid. They have worked around other commitments and taken their time to squeeze us in and support us and it is being squandered to little end.

Yes, we are irregulars, yes we will not be able to make all games, but if it is only a few who actually make the effort to do so we will not get very far. If 25% of our "core active" members show up we can barely raise a squad. If 25% of our membership show up we will have 3+ full squads. I do not see why this is not happening apart from lethargy and a lack of willingness to participate. The only way the irregs can keep the group functioning in a part time way is if we get involvement when you can. If not it will fall on the same people to do the work and make the effort time and again only to see it wasted.[/arsekicking]
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[arsekicking]It is a shame that more people havent rallied around this. As always it is the "core" guys who try and make attendance and of course a fair few wont be able to make it. What we really need is the support of all those silent members we have. Where are you guys? Most of you signed up saying you wanted to be involved in training/scrims etc and yet now that the opportunities have been put up they are being squandered. The scrim league sign up was poor, training sign up was poor. Why is this people? I have seen members on Server 1 while scrim league games are under way (those that havent signed up rather than those who have). Why are you not clammering to be on the list? We now have our own private training time on a server which has been kindly provided by the admins and drizzid. They have worked around other commitments and taken their time to squeeze us in and support us and it is being squandered to little end.

I agree also, what happened to the support of everyone, the oppurtinity is there to become a part of something, but the numbers are dropping for participation in the scrims and the practice. Granted I havent made a couple, but with the numbers that we have listed int the Roster, we should have more than just 3-4 Irregulars show up for the Scrims!! It is very dissappointing. Just remeber that the lower our turn out is, the lower number of slots we have for the League Scrims. The idea was for mass support to show our loyalty and how much we want to be involved in this community. All the hard work that has been put into this is being thrown away. In my opinion, I think the avatars and the Irr tag should be eliminated. Very few are showing support of this project. I am constanly seeing new sign ups, but I havent seen any of them at a practice or a scrim. We welcome everybody and hope for some help ans some participation, but I guess I was wrong. So much for team cohesion, with the exception of the select few who actively participate in the forums and scrims/practices. I understand there are many different time zones and work habits/ethics, but somehow try to make an effort to be there.
I agree with Jimmy on seeing those in Server 1, but not in the Scrim. Where is the representation on that.

Anyway, this is just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth. This Irregular idea was meant to help. not hinder, but it is beginning to become a hindrance to allthose that have tried to keep it afloat, and in the end we end up with minimal support. Very dissapointing.
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Good posts there Drizzid, JimmyTwoHand and sgtDFuller. I have to agree with your sentiments. I was a little dissappointed with the small turnout for practice, well done those who attended and I do understand people have real lives. As for the last couple of scrims, I think only one Irregular made it (well done joey_vendetta) to the last one and only four made it to the one before(well done, you know who you are).
I won't be able to make the next practice or the Irregulars Vs in-house scrim, but the way things have been looking I am not sure if enough Irregulars will turn up for a full scrim unless people get a little more commited. What is the point of being in the Irregulars if you aren't going to get involved in the training and the scrims, you might as well just keep playing on server1 and just join the ranks of other TG players who are part of the community and proudly wear the |TG| tag without commiting to an in-house squad. If you are an Irregular and are not, or do not plan to get involved in the scrims and training what else do you hope to gain from membership?

Here is a little quote from our wiki http://www.tacticalwiki.com/index.php/The_Irregulars
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To provide a home for BF2 players who cannot commit to a regular squad for whatever reason. Open to all TG Forum members, our strength shall come from a joint and pooled effort. We will strive to ease the transition of inductees from external to internal mindset through training, fighting together as a team, and mutual support. It is hoped we will be looked towards to provide a "pool" of potential recruits for the other in-house squads. Above all, the Irregulars will fight together when the opportunity arises and strive to be victorious, while having and achieving all above aims/goals. It is for those who would like a TG home-unit yet are not eligible/suitable/interested in a "numbered" squad.

Our core membership will be:

Non-SM's that are looking for consistent teammates and tactics.

SM's looking for consistent teammates and tactics, but that can't make the full time commitment (practices, scrims, etc) required by in-house squads.

SM's contributing TG experience and tactics to help 'learn-up' newer members
something to bear in mind, just some thoughts.
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Good posts there Drizzid, JimmyTwoHand and sgtDFuller. I have to agree with your sentiments. I was a little dissappointed with the small turnout for practice, well done those who attended and I do understand people have real lives. As for the last couple of scrims, I think only one Irregular made it (well done joey_vendetta) to the last one and only four made it to the one before(well done, you know who you are).
I won't be able to make the next practice or the Irregulars Vs in-house scrim, but the way things have been looking I am not sure if enough Irregulars will turn up for a full scrim unless people get a little more commited. What is the point of being in the Irregulars if you aren't going to get involved in the training and the scrims, you might as well just keep playing on server1 and just join the ranks of other TG players who are part of the community and proudly wear the |TG| tag without commiting to an in-house squad. If you are an Irregular and are not, or do not plan to get involved in the scrims and training what else do you hope to gain from membership?

Here is a little quote from our wiki http://www.tacticalwiki.com/index.php/The_Irregulars


something to bear in mind, just some thoughts.
This is a superb point Shirk, thanks for pointing that out. I want to also say that it isn't all about the scrims and the practices. At the least any member of the Irregulars should at least stay up to date with the forums. That is where the information for everything is. If you see a post reguarding an event whether it be practice or a scrim or just a current topic of discusiion, is it so hard to reply? Maybe a "yes I can make it" or "No I can't make it" or "I will try to make it". That's really all we are asking for is just a little participation. There are a number of people who are trying there very best to bring a little respect to this squad and there are even more non-Irregulars that have worked very hard in supporting our efforts and to me it seems like we are slapping the rest of TG across the face. If you want my opinion if this trend continues I think the Irregulars will be no more due to the lack of participation. Again I thank all who have done their part and more.
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This is a superb point Shirk, thanks for pointing that out. I want to also say that it isn't all about the scrims and the practices. At the least any member of the Irregulars should at least stay up to date with the forums. That is where the information for everything is. If you see a post reguarding an event whether it be practice or a scrim or just a current topic of discusiion, is it so hard to reply? Maybe a "yes I can make it" or "No I can't make it" or "I will try to make it". That's really all we are asking for is just a little participation. There are a number of people who are trying there very best to bring a little respect to this squad and there are even more non-Irregulars that have worked very hard in supporting our efforts and to me it seems like we are slapping the rest of TG across the face. If you want my opinion if this trend continues I think the Irregulars will be no more due to the lack of participation. Again I thank all who have done their part and more.
I hadn't meant my point to be so overbearing about levels of participation, you put it much better. I was just getting a bit over-enthusiastic about trying to drum up some more support for all the great events (created though much hard work) that the Irregulars and TG have to offer.
As JimmyTwoHand mentioned earlier I have seen several occasions during a scrim when the teams are half empty but server1 is full of Irregulars and other TG members, I just want to put across the point that playing in a TG scrim, (containing only TG members!) is so much more fun than even normal TG server play. They involve very organised squad play and levels of teamplay way above normal server1 standards, what more could you ask for
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I hadn't meant my point to be so overbearing about levels of participation, you put it much better. I was just getting a bit over-enthusiastic about trying to drum up some more support for all the great events (created though much hard work) that the Irregulars and TG have to offer.
As JimmyTwoHand mentioned earlier I have seen several occasions during a scrim when the teams are half empty but server1 is full of Irregulars and other TG members, I just want to put across the point that playing in a TG scrim, (containing only TG members!) is so much more fun than even normal TG server play. They involve very organised squad play and levels of teamplay way above normal server1 standards, what more could you ask for
Shirk your opinion and participation are much appreciated thanks. Everything you said was right on the money I just wanted to add just a little bit more info in reguards to acceptable participation that's all. Keep up the good work thanks
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These points need their own thread, they are valid and need to be voiced and absorbed. People need to read this. Either in here or in the main BF2 general discussion forum.
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I'm sorry I haven't been around for a few days. I've been kind of busy. I have popped ontot he site a few times to see whats been going on but work has been pulling me away a lot more than I wanted it to. I lost my old job and went into business for myself doing transmission upgrades so I've had a lot of valve body modifications that came in.

I will be on tomorrow for sure for the practice, is it going tobe on the same server as the last practice? What time will it be? Same time?

I'm also going to try to be on today, if I can get away from doing valve bodys for a little bit. I think if I devote my morning to shop work I can be on tonight for a bit.

Believe me, I think about this place a lot but I just haven't had the time to get on a play with the amount of work I have.
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I just cant make the weekday training/practise nights cos its too late here(usually starting 1am!) and i get up at 5. Anytime on a Fri or Sat is good and sundays before 12gmt.
If there could be some practise/training sessions set up for GMT then i should be able to attend any/all.
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Chicken: Being away for a few days or a week here and there is not a problem. We expect that. You participate in the forum and we know you are active. Some members have only the few posts that it took to sign up to their name and have never been seen here or on the servers. It is to those "sleepers" that the comments were designed (or born out of frustration).
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