Thread: Acceptable C4 car uses?
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06-03-2006 05:04 PM #16Banned
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
One of the reasons I sometimes end up killing myself when C4'ing a tank is an in game bug/lag issue that causes me to throw out an extra back when switching to my detonator. I still haven't figured out how to avoid this, but it's caused a few unintentional suicides on my part.
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06-03-2006 05:05 PM #17
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
I have no problem sacrificing myself to take out a tank that's shredding my team.
ever hear the phrase "jump on the grenade"?
That being said I try 110% to NOT die getting C4 on a tank.
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06-03-2006 05:54 PM #18
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
I agree Santa. If I see a tank "facing another direction" I believe I would "be trying to C4 a tank safely" since I have no way to know if the tanker is using 3rd person at that moment. Therefore if the tank turn's around and try's to kill me, I'll at least kill both of us. But I too don't agree with suicide C4'ing, I'd rather live and C4 the tank.
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06-04-2006 12:10 AM #19
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
I would say then the generaal majority agrees it being acceptable, but there is a drawn line? IMO, C4 anywhere should be acceptable. Even people who sacrifice themselves to take out a tank are OK, because a tank should have supporting infantry to stop such attempts. Just goes to show that tanks can't solo out thinking they are invinceable. I mean, even today, there are people out there who are prepared or even planning to die in an attempt to take out an enemy asset. So is this not realistic?
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06-04-2006 12:15 AM #20
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
Take some time to read the TG Primer that asch linked, then think about the question some more.
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06-04-2006 05:03 AM #21
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
Even if i get C4 on a tank i wont push the detonator until i get clear of the blast even if it means dying. Its the same reason i dont use GLs or Eryx rockets at close range. Having said that its just a personal way of playing and i know many disagree or play differently.
If you can park your car on the bridge or next to a tank and get away from it to safely blow it, well done. I know i dont think id be able to. I think it would be a shame to see this used as a regular tactic though.
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06-04-2006 12:24 PM #22
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I've never had a problem sneaking up to a tank to C4 it, the thing is you shouldn't even want to try unless you know you have good cover and he's distracted. Otherwise, 2 AT shots to the tracks = down to 4 bars or so.
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06-04-2006 02:48 PM #23
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I know for a fact that the primer is interpreted differently even by our own admins. We need to be more specific about the articles in the primer. Some things that the primer would prohibit are present on the TG server while others such as C4 jeeps aren't really in violation of the primer at all. I know you don't want to hear me rant about C4 on the flag base but that is in violation of the primer yet admins tell me since there isn't significant community outcry against C4 on the flag base that it is ok. I think we need to be careful when we refrence the primer because it isn't absolute, and people pick and choose what it does and doesn't prohibit. That's what I have come to learn after trying to use it to leverage stoping C4 on the flag. Originally Posted by perry
For the record, I'm against C4 jeeps not because it's against the primer but because it would become an overused tactic, just like C4 on the flag base seems to have become an overused tactic.The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.
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06-04-2006 03:26 PM #24
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
The primer is general for all TG servers (I believe), and that with specifics, the BF2 rules should be referenced to.
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06-04-2006 03:48 PM #25
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
- C4 suicide jeeps is not something we want to see on our servers.
- Using a game engine bug that allows C4 to be hidden inside another object is not something we want on our servers.
We're not going to make an encyclopedia of rules to cover every little scenario / situation. If an admin makes a judgement call, we expect every person to respect that decision. If there are any questions / concerns, a PM to an admin is the route to take.
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06-04-2006 04:03 PM #26
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
The first I dont see very often, but nearly always (especially with a low population) there is C4 inside the flag pole, especially if thats the only good place for C4 to do its thing. Its a bug, but it happens on many objects, sometimes I stick it on a wall and it goes invisible...weird stuff. Originally Posted by asch
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06-04-2006 04:05 PM #27
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Furthermore, it is VERY EASY to play this game in such a way that you are never forcing admins to apply their interpretation of the rules, and that is how we would like everyone to play the game. Originally Posted by asch
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06-04-2006 04:09 PM #28
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
Not to start an argument here, but in the real world, I could open up that crate you are now hiding behind and plant C4 in there without you knowing.
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
C4 in a flag pole - there's another thread, don't drag it around to any thread talking about C4.
Killing yourself while trying to kill a tank - try not to.
C4 on a car to do this, that, or the other - read the primer and figure out what you should do. This advice would probably hold true for just about anything not specifically spelled out in the rules.
Questions about rules - PM the admins and/or Game Officer. They're the only ones that can give you an official answer.
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Re: Acceptable C4 car uses?
Good. Thanks.
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