about the script that kicks players that aren't in a squad

**BigGaayAl** · 01-04-2006, 12:55 PM

My clan (the =|[Chronic]|= clan server ip:84.244.231.86:16567/ranked) has been trying to enforce the policy that all players must join squads. This rule was inspired by the TG rules. However my problem is that i'm getting very tired of constantly kicking people.

Now i would like to ask two things, and i hope i will get an answer from the Tg'ers who are responsible for these things.

1) Do you think it is at all possible to use the script that tg uses to autokick unassigned players on a ranked server which uses bf2 command and control?

2) If so is tg willing to provide this script to me

Now i suspect that using this kind of script is not allowed by the ranked server EULA but would like to do it anyway. In fact this should have been in the game from start, because e.g. a commander can't warn unassigned players usig the "move artillery" message.

Furthermore i hope i haven't broken TG forum rules by posting our server ip, and would like to invite any European TG players to stop by when they find the TG servers empty. If you guys ever do a european "pubbie raid", there's the place

. I've been trying for my squadmates to visit your server so then can experience bf2 the way it is ment to be played, but lag and the time difference gets in the way.

Trooper · 01-04-2006, 01:02 PM

welcome to TG and glad to see we are making and impact

Tempus is the BF2 game officer and you should PM him
Pokerface is the creater for said script so you should also PM him
and our fearless leader is Apophis....

i cant speak for them on if they will allow you to use the script but i hope the informtion has helped you...

again welcome and always feel free to jump on our servers to see how its run

**Tempus** · 01-04-2006, 01:04 PM

Ranked servers will not allow you to modify their settings or scripts, so the answer is No.

**BigGaayAl** · 01-04-2006, 01:23 PM

Thanks for the replies.

I guess suspected EA would be smart enough to make such scripts impossible, but i had to ask just to make sure. However if bf2 cc could detect players that aren't in a squad (i don't think it has that feature rightnow), could it not by modified to automatticaly kick these players after a given time? I couldn't see why not, since all the calculations (counting time, keeping track of wether players are in a squad or not) could be done on my computer, and the bf2cc client on my computer (or a supplementary piece of software) could then use bf2cc to kick the violating players. So i would think it can be done without altering the files that are currently on the bf2server, thus avoiding the problem that no scripts can be installed. Is this solution at all plausible?

Although it is probably in vain, i've started a thread and a poll about such a feature on the official forum. As we've seen with the patch the are working on now, they do actually listen to community input, so if u feel like it, have a vote.
http://forum.eagames.co.uk/viewtopic...=142592#142592

**WhiskeySix** · 01-04-2006, 01:28 PM

is the API for BF2CC published? is it a windows COM app?

**BigGaayAl** · 01-04-2006, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskeySix

is the API for BF2CC published? is it a windows COM app?

Ehh i can surely not help you on that one, since you might as well be talking chinese as far as i'm concerned, but i will leave you their url, and then a url of the feature request i just made on their forum.

bf2cc wesite:
http://www.bf2cc.com

Feature request topic:
http://www.bf2cc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14655#14655

Thanks again for helping out.

**Pokerface** · 01-04-2006, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskeySix

is the API for BF2CC published? is it a windows COM app?

The BF2CC API is not published anywhere I've looked.

**WhiskeySix** · 01-04-2006, 02:31 PM

wonder if this ever turned into anything:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:G...ient=firefox-a

ScratchMonkey · 01-05-2006, 11:06 AM

BF2CC is approved on ranked servers, and the devs do listen to reasonable suggestions. Essentially you have to convince them that this is a good idea, and then they have to convince EA. EA's the tougher nut to crack, but stranger things have been known to happen.

The kick system doesn't seem that different from BF2CC's smart balance system, in terms of what's needed to support the functionality, so it's really a SMOP for the BF2CC devs.

**Tempus** · 01-05-2006, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigGaayAl

Although it is probably in vain, i've started a thread and a poll about such a feature on the official forum. As we've seen with the patch the are working on now, they do actually listen to community input, so if u feel like it, have a vote.
http://forum.eagames.co.uk/viewtopic...=142592#142592

Man, that thread is sad... I am so glad I don't have to play with the general public.

Trooper · 01-05-2006, 11:46 AM

no kidding.....TG is a oasis...im not sure what these people are thinking when they complain aboout EA/DICE for fixing the lonewolf problems...o well i wil never go back to pubbie servers

Drizzid · 01-05-2006, 11:46 AM

Ya know reading that thread makes you appreciate TG that much more.

**BigGaayAl** · 01-05-2006, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempus

Man, that thread is sad... I am so glad I don't have to play with the general public.

You got that right. I guess this is the forum you go to when you never play with friends.... I sometimes forget that other gamers DON'T seem to like the TG style of play... Baffling.

What i really don't understand is why these players don't move to ut2004 or quake or doom.

On the topic: I think bf2cc may work on it sometime, but they are thinkin too hard about it, because they don't dare enforce a strict rule; one of the coders wants to kick unassigned players only when the server is full. But to me that would be totally pointless, since you would still be playing with smacktards most of the time.

However, they might do it, keeping my fingers crossed.

ps good times on sf last night!

01-04-2006, 12:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
BigGaayAl Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: gent, belgium Posts: 1,488	about the script that kicks players that aren't in a squad My clan (the =\|[Chronic]\|= clan server ip:84.244.231.86:16567/ranked) has been trying to enforce the policy that all players must join squads. This rule was inspired by the TG rules. However my problem is that i'm getting very tired of constantly kicking people. Now i would like to ask two things, and i hope i will get an answer from the Tg'ers who are responsible for these things. 1) Do you think it is at all possible to use the script that tg uses to autokick unassigned players on a ranked server which uses bf2 command and control? 2) If so is tg willing to provide this script to me Now i suspect that using this kind of script is not allowed by the ranked server EULA but would like to do it anyway. In fact this should have been in the game from start, because e.g. a commander can't warn unassigned players usig the "move artillery" message. Furthermore i hope i haven't broken TG forum rules by posting our server ip, and would like to invite any European TG players to stop by when they find the TG servers empty. If you guys ever do a european "pubbie raid", there's the place . I've been trying for my squadmates to visit your server so then can experience bf2 the way it is ment to be played, but lag and the time difference gets in the way. __________________ Support your right to arm bears. ~Cleveland Amory I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy. ~J.D. Salinger

01-04-2006, 01:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Trooper Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my wifes house......if she says i can Age: 25 Posts: 8,640	Re: about the script that kicks players that aren't in a squad welcome to TG and glad to see we are making and impact Tempus is the BF2 game officer and you should PM him Pokerface is the creater for said script so you should also PM him and our fearless leader is Apophis.... i cant speak for them on if they will allow you to use the script but i hope the informtion has helped you... again welcome and always feel free to jump on our servers to see how its run __________________ that sounds like a good idea trooper. -Vulcan

01-04-2006, 01:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tempus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Age: 38 Posts: 8,170	Re: about the script that kicks players that aren't in a squad Ranked servers will not allow you to modify their settings or scripts, so the answer is No. __________________ Battlefield 2/2142 Game Officer Contact me with server/player/admin issues. -- Suits are what you wear when doing things you shouldn’t want to do anyway. FROM THE TACTICAL GAMER PRIMER. 3) Support game play in a near-simulation environment. Where the focus of play would not be solely on doing what it takes to win, but doing so utilizing real-world combat strategy and tactics rather than leveraging exploits provided to players by the design of the game engine.

01-04-2006, 01:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
BigGaayAl Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: gent, belgium Posts: 1,488	Re: about the script that kicks players that aren't in a squad Thanks for the replies. I guess suspected EA would be smart enough to make such scripts impossible, but i had to ask just to make sure. However if bf2 cc could detect players that aren't in a squad (i don't think it has that feature rightnow), could it not by modified to automatticaly kick these players after a given time? I couldn't see why not, since all the calculations (counting time, keeping track of wether players are in a squad or not) could be done on my computer, and the bf2cc client on my computer (or a supplementary piece of software) could then use bf2cc to kick the violating players. So i would think it can be done without altering the files that are currently on the bf2server, thus avoiding the problem that no scripts can be installed. Is this solution at all plausible? Although it is probably in vain, i've started a thread and a poll about such a feature on the official forum. As we've seen with the patch the are working on now, they do actually listen to community input, so if u feel like it, have a vote. http://forum.eagames.co.uk/viewtopic...=142592#142592 __________________ Support your right to arm bears. ~Cleveland Amory I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy. ~J.D. Salinger

01-04-2006, 01:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
WhiskeySix Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gillette Stadium, Section 309, Row 12, Seat 24 Age: 33 Posts: 8,273	Re: about the script that kicks players that aren't in a squad is the API for BF2CC published? is it a windows COM app? __________________ *PoE2 Version 2.5 Overview \| Get started with PoE2 (for free!)*

01-04-2006, 02:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
WhiskeySix Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gillette Stadium, Section 309, Row 12, Seat 24 Age: 33 Posts: 8,273	Re: about the script that kicks players that aren't in a squad wonder if this ever turned into anything: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:G...ient=firefox-a __________________ *PoE2 Version 2.5 Overview \| Get started with PoE2 (for free!)*

01-05-2006, 11:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 4,262	Re: about the script that kicks players that aren't in a squad BF2CC is approved on ranked servers, and the devs do listen to reasonable suggestions. Essentially you have to convince them that this is a good idea, and then they have to convince EA. EA's the tougher nut to crack, but stranger things have been known to happen. The kick system doesn't seem that different from BF2CC's smart balance system, in terms of what's needed to support the functionality, so it's really a SMOP for the BF2CC devs. __________________

01-05-2006, 11:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
Trooper Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my wifes house......if she says i can Age: 25 Posts: 8,640	Re: about the script that kicks players that aren't in a squad no kidding.....TG is a oasis...im not sure what these people are thinking when they complain aboout EA/DICE for fixing the lonewolf problems...o well i wil never go back to pubbie servers __________________ that sounds like a good idea trooper. -Vulcan

01-05-2006, 11:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
Drizzid Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Age: 37 Posts: 2,957	Re: about the script that kicks players that aren't in a squad Ya know reading that thread makes you appreciate TG that much more. __________________

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