Lag on POE Server

E0_ · 09-22-2006, 11:26 PM

The lag on the POE server is getting to the point that the game is unplayable for me. It seems things will be OK for a few minutes and then will be so laggy that I essentially can't move. After ten or fifteen seconds, things are back to "normal." I've stopped all the services I can and still things are no better. I don't notice anything like this on the vanilla (or tacmod) server. Any suggestions or ideas would be welcome.

Lekdevil.NL · 09-22-2006, 11:44 PM

Try to find out if you've got network lag (latency spikes and/or packet loss) or client lag (hard disk swapping, high CPU load). Use PingPlotter to record a ping plot (1 second interval, preferably) during play and analyse that. Post it in here if you need help interpreting the thing.

**Grunt 70** · 09-23-2006, 04:00 AM

I'll chime in and say I've been blessed with no lag whatsoever since day 1 of the TG POE2 server....Lek's got some good ideas there Me thinks...

E0_ · 09-23-2006, 12:37 PM

Thanks for the suggestions, Lekdevil. I took a quick look at PingPlotter and didn't see anything obvious. I'll plot some data tonight and look at CPU and memory use as well. Generally speaking is POE more of a memory hog that vanilla or tacmod?

**Dick Blonov** · 09-23-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E0_

Thanks for the suggestions, Lekdevil. I took a quick look at PingPlotter and didn't see anything obvious. I'll plot some data tonight and look at CPU and memory use as well. Generally speaking is POE more of a memory hog that vanilla or tacmod?

I noticed on my system 20-30% more ram usage. I run all video settings at high.

DB

E0_ · 09-23-2006, 04:00 PM

OK, just went in game long enough to check a few things. Pingplotter consistently shows results between 65 and 70, even when the game stalls out. I'm showing about 1.3 GB of memory used and CPU use is very high, often 100%.

I have an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ CPU and 1.5Gig of DDR-SDRAM. Am I simply CPU limited here? Would going to 2Gig help? I don't seem to be doing any disk swaping.

**Dick Blonov** · 09-23-2006, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E0_

OK, just went in game long enough to check a few things. Pingplotter consistently shows results between 65 and 70, even when the game stalls out. I'm showing about 1.3 GB of memory used and CPU use is very high, often 100%.

I have an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ CPU and 1.5Gig of DDR-SDRAM. Am I simply CPU limited here? Would going to 2Gig help? I don't seem to be doing any disk swaping.

Well, I run a 2.4Ghz P4 @ 2.9, 2 Gb of ram. So I would not think you are CPU limited. IMHO, you need 2Gb to run BF2 smoothly.

DB

Lekdevil.NL · 09-23-2006, 06:21 PM

If you're confident that the network connection is not the issue (and given the data, I'd agree with that), next up would be to check the behaviour or the processes running alongside BF2. Get Process Explorer from Sysinternals.com. Have it set up to include the per-process CPU history in the main window (right-click on the column headers and click "Select Columns..."). When you're getting a lag spike, alt-tab out of BF2 and see which process is particularly active at that point (apart from BF2, of course).

HTH.

perry · 09-23-2006, 11:41 PM

I run an AMD64 3000+ and 1.5GB of RAM.. No problems like you're describing.

**eGoatBoy** · 09-25-2006, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Blonov

...IMHO, you need 2Gb to run BF2 smoothly...

I run with 2GB of RAM and will hit 80-85% untilization (BF2/PoE + TS + FRAPS + TS Overlay + + +). I used to be on 1GB and that wasn't so good. So I agree with Blonov.

The extra ram also knocked about 20 seconds off of my map load time.

Hope you get this sorted out E0...words like "unplayable" are frightening.

Good luck.

Hambergler · 09-25-2006, 11:53 PM

I'm having the same exact problem. I reformatted and got a Raptor. Ping Plotter is perfect. I have expensive low latency ram. 1gb but when I look at the ram its never even 3/4. I don't know how you guys are looking at the ram. I alt tab to task maneger. My cpu is at %100 all the time. I can't buy anymore of the same ram because the revision # must be the same. And its 2 years old. And I don't want to buy a whole new set til Vista.
I remember having a similar problem when punkbuster released a bad update that they corrected a couple days later.
If I have to go out to best buy and buy a 2gb pack to see I will.
The other thing I think it may be is the audigy 2. Going to try to run on board sound. It feels to me that the sound is holding up the graphics somehow.
And last but not least it may be windows 2000 finally becoming unusable.
After all it is a mod and there are probally some bugs. If you find a cure please post it or pm me.

Hambergler · 09-26-2006, 09:29 PM

Here are people having the same problems on the POE forum. I would encourage anyone having this problem to let them know.

http://www.pointofexistence.com/foru...opic=9729&st=0

E0_ · 09-29-2006, 11:31 PM

Hambergler, check that threat on POE forum. There is a post about pb. I tried it and that seems to have worked for me.

Hambergler · 09-30-2006, 11:06 PM

Not Sure what happend, but about 3 days ago everything just went normal. Who knows?

09-22-2006, 11:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
E0_ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 58 Posts: 423	Lag on POE Server The lag on the POE server is getting to the point that the game is unplayable for me. It seems things will be OK for a few minutes and then will be so laggy that I essentially can't move. After ten or fifteen seconds, things are back to "normal." I've stopped all the services I can and still things are no better. I don't notice anything like this on the vanilla (or tacmod) server. Any suggestions or ideas would be welcome. __________________ The time for calm and rational discussion has passed. Now is the time for senseless bickering.

09-22-2006, 11:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lekdevil.NL Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 38 Posts: 90	Re: Lag on POE Server Try to find out if you've got network lag (latency spikes and/or packet loss) or client lag (hard disk swapping, high CPU load). Use PingPlotter to record a ping plot (1 second interval, preferably) during play and analyse that. Post it in here if you need help interpreting the thing. __________________ <insert signature spam here>

09-23-2006, 04:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
Grunt 70 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 43 Posts: 2,494	Re: Lag on POE Server I'll chime in and say I've been blessed with no lag whatsoever since day 1 of the TG POE2 server....Lek's got some good ideas there Me thinks... __________________ \|TG-22nd\|Grunt "When force is necessary, it must be applied boldly, decisively, and completely. But one must know the limitations of force; one must know when to blend force with maneuver" - Leon Trotsky

09-23-2006, 12:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
E0_ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 58 Posts: 423	Re: Lag on POE Server Thanks for the suggestions, Lekdevil. I took a quick look at PingPlotter and didn't see anything obvious. I'll plot some data tonight and look at CPU and memory use as well. Generally speaking is POE more of a memory hog that vanilla or tacmod? __________________ The time for calm and rational discussion has passed. Now is the time for senseless bickering.

09-23-2006, 04:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
E0_ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 58 Posts: 423	Re: Lag on POE Server OK, just went in game long enough to check a few things. Pingplotter consistently shows results between 65 and 70, even when the game stalls out. I'm showing about 1.3 GB of memory used and CPU use is very high, often 100%. I have an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ CPU and 1.5Gig of DDR-SDRAM. Am I simply CPU limited here? Would going to 2Gig help? I don't seem to be doing any disk swaping. __________________ The time for calm and rational discussion has passed. Now is the time for senseless bickering.

09-23-2006, 06:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lekdevil.NL Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 38 Posts: 90	Re: Lag on POE Server If you're confident that the network connection is not the issue (and given the data, I'd agree with that), next up would be to check the behaviour or the processes running alongside BF2. Get Process Explorer from Sysinternals.com. Have it set up to include the per-process CPU history in the main window (right-click on the column headers and click "Select Columns..."). When you're getting a lag spike, alt-tab out of BF2 and see which process is particularly active at that point (apart from BF2, of course). HTH. __________________ <insert signature spam here>

09-23-2006, 11:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
perry Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,494	Re: Lag on POE Server I run an AMD64 3000+ and 1.5GB of RAM.. No problems like you're describing. __________________ Battlefield Admin(BF2 Rules) (BF2142 Rules) [volun2][medic][defense3][eng2][support] [sg-c1][gchq-c1][tog-c1][ma-c1][taw-c1][tg-c2] Support TG \| Write for TacticalWiki \| BF2 Sig. Generator \| TS Help

09-25-2006, 11:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hambergler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Age: 34 Posts: 1,124	Re: Lag on POE Server I'm having the same exact problem. I reformatted and got a Raptor. Ping Plotter is perfect. I have expensive low latency ram. 1gb but when I look at the ram its never even 3/4. I don't know how you guys are looking at the ram. I alt tab to task maneger. My cpu is at %100 all the time. I can't buy anymore of the same ram because the revision # must be the same. And its 2 years old. And I don't want to buy a whole new set til Vista. I remember having a similar problem when punkbuster released a bad update that they corrected a couple days later. If I have to go out to best buy and buy a 2gb pack to see I will. The other thing I think it may be is the audigy 2. Going to try to run on board sound. It feels to me that the sound is holding up the graphics somehow. And last but not least it may be windows 2000 finally becoming unusable. After all it is a mod and there are probally some bugs. If you find a cure please post it or pm me.

09-26-2006, 09:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Hambergler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Age: 34 Posts: 1,124	Re: Lag on POE Server Here are people having the same problems on the POE forum. I would encourage anyone having this problem to let them know. http://www.pointofexistence.com/foru...opic=9729&st=0

09-29-2006, 11:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
E0_ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 58 Posts: 423	Re: Lag on POE Server Hambergler, check that threat on POE forum. There is a post about pb. I tried it and that seems to have worked for me. __________________ The time for calm and rational discussion has passed. Now is the time for senseless bickering.

09-30-2006, 11:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Hambergler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Age: 34 Posts: 1,124	Re: Lag on POE Server Not Sure what happend, but about 3 days ago everything just went normal. Who knows?

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