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This is just a small personnal thread that I decided to post
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05-14-2007, 03:37 AM #1
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Apologies
Hello Tactical Gamers,
This is just a small personnal thread that I decided to post in reference to my poor performance as a commander. It was yesterday at around 17:30 GMT time , on the tactical gamer server, on the Verdun map after round on Cerbere Landing.
I really appreciate to play on Tactical Gamers server as it reflect discipline, team work and objectives. I do not play a lot, only at night when coming back from job. My skills are poor still and I had only one chance in the past to act as a commander.
Yesterday after the raging battle round on Cerbere Landing where I was a squad team the Verdun map loaded and I ended up as a squad leader. Feeling in good speed I applyed for the Commander duty...catastrophic!!!
First one of the squad leader contacted me before the battle started and asked me to organize and instead to give order on the voice channel I waited to have the map appearing. Secondely, I reached my workload capacity and my commanding capacity very fast. Thirdly, in seeing that walkers, tanks, and troops were advancing toward the flag I sent orbital strike. One of the squad leader complained a lot and I understand as I did not inform them of this offensive...it was a disaster...0 for us and 140 for the asian...a shame!
So I just wanted to apologise of this incident. I took a lesson from this...my communication was ZERO. Was not asking for income infos, was not giving infos, also did not use the area scan...so for you squad leaders, squad members who were there yesterday I ask you to understand and I would appreciate you give me any feedback on where I went wrong as I wish to improve...thank you
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05-14-2007, 04:44 AM #2
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Re: Apologies
Well if the score was 0-140 it could not have all possibly been your fault. The teams were probably unfair.
You pretty much said yourself what you need to improve on, communication and scanning. You could of also sent in a EMP strike + orb strike in together against the taks, walkers, and infantry. That combo really messes vehicles up. An orbital strike alone wont do the job against them.
You might want to take a look at the commanding guide posted on these forums too.
Practice makes perfect.
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05-14-2007, 05:56 AM #3
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Re: Apologies
Thank you for the answer Pablo...Practice makes perfect as you say. I looked at the commander tectics this morning very briefly but going to look at it more in detail.
Any way thank you for the message, good to get some feedback and establish contact on the forum...By the way in case we meet on one of those battlefield, me llamo "Saberdin"...good day, cheers
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05-14-2007, 08:39 AM #4
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Re: Apologies
We all have bad rounds. No big deal. At least you took something away from this one and you are going to keep trying. We always need commanders.
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05-14-2007, 10:35 AM #5
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Re: Apologies
We need more commanders, so props to you for applying for the role and giving it a shot.
To me, communication is 90% of the commander's role (spotting, sat scan and UAV falls under communication to me), the other 10% would be dropping emp/orbitals and supplies as needed. Always tell your squads you are dropping on orbital and where, that way we'll back off a bit, regroup, and push at the end of the OS.
Originally Posted by jsharo73
This isn't always true, but it could have been the case. There have been rounds with a commander that sends the whole team at one flag leaving every other CP exposed and unprotected, often resulting in the losing team being under constant bleed for the majority of the round. I'm not saying this is what you did (I wasn't there), but it is a common occurrence with newer commanders. Again, communication between the Squad Memebers, Squad Learders, and Commander helps to avoid this. Originally Posted by Pablo
You got that right! Originally Posted by Pablo
If you are willing to learn and open to suggestions (and some criticisms), I think you'll do fine.Last edited by Lorax74; 05-14-2007 at 12:16 PM.
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05-14-2007, 12:09 PM #6WhiiteOutGuest
Re: Apologies
I know I would love to learn to command properly as others are I'm sure. The fact is we can all read the guides and 'how to's' but the only way to properly learn is hands on experience. Learning what to do in certain situations, properly command squads, etc etc, can be quite cumbersome on a live server such as the TG conquest where the standards are high. What about setting aside a night on the main TG conquest server to allow turns in commanding for the green folk? I've read about practice servers and such but the learning experience on a practice server wouldn't even compare to a server with 5 or 6 squads on each side cordinating attacks/defences on both teams. Experienced commanders can advise to not so experienced commander via command channel and we can have discussions about certain rounds via the forums.
Nobody should feel like they need to apologize for doing a bad job. That only adds pressure on the newbie (for lack of a better word) for doing a good job and may detour a lot of players for even giving it a shot.
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05-14-2007, 01:14 PM #7
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Re: Apologies
I commanded a few rounds yesterday as well. I think I just need to work on directing VOIP to the squad that I want to talk to rather than just defaulting the the B key most of the time.
Generally, if there are 2 or more TG squads I don't bother with orders unless squads are doing silly things like throwing tickets away, attacking heavily defended positions when we already have bleed. TG squads generally know what needs to be done on their own. During the battle I relay general information using the B key. Hillside is clear, church has significant enemy activity...
The secret with Verdun and the 32 player map is that ticket bleed is everything. If you hold 2 flags most of the round, you are pretty much guaranteed victory. Hillside and the Farms are the easiest to hold so I try and keep them.
I need to complete up the commander screen how to video as well. That's been sitting for a long time now.The Dirty
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05-14-2007, 02:50 PM #8
Re: Apologies
I personally haven't commanded yet. I am afraid to let people down also. But I give you points for moxy. You'll never improve those skills unless you step up and take the reigns. You did, that makes a difference. The true TG'ers will always have more to say to help make you better than try and take you down.
Play on!
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05-14-2007, 07:13 PM #9
Re: Apologies
a good step towards commanding is squad leading under a solid comander. If you have squad led a bunch of times you start to understand what a good commander is and what a bad commander is. you also start to understand how squad leaders act.
it is threads like this that remind me how awesome the TG community is. in 95% of the other communites this kind of thread may pop up in, it would be met with hostile spam and insults. what people are saying here is genuine and nice. that kind of community is really hard to find.
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05-14-2007, 07:19 PM #10
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Re: Apologies
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05-14-2007, 07:23 PM #11
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Re: Apologies
Jsharo, you've just put out the mark of a great leader: someone who can admit their mistakes and is willing to learn from them.
As lorax said, communication is 90% of it. Whether it's verbal, written or otherwise. Sometimes, a great commander with great squad leaders and organized players can win a round without saying a word, just issuing orders and dropping orbital and UAV where its needed. However, seeing as that circumstance is VERY rare, even here, communicating with your troops is an immense plus.
Also, score has no bearing on your skill as commander. I have a pretty darn good w/l ratio as commander, but I got monkeystomped the other day on camp gibraltar because when I called my guys to fall back to toll station and defend, they didnt listen and subsequently a car got through. next thing I know, ruins and EU base are captured, my assets are blown to smithereens and i'm hiding in a corner fending off the hordes with my pistol.
Needless to say, we lost miserably, something like 180-0. I felt bad about losing, but I also realize that the commander, contrary to popular belief, is no superman and cant save the day all by himself. So dont get too beat up about it.
Last but not least, welcome to TG. I'd be glad to have you comm for me any day.
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05-14-2007, 09:44 PM #12
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Re: Apologies
There is a learning curve to this game, just like anything in life. Commanding
can be complicated at times, and a loss isn't always the commanders fault. Keep
at it, and you will be a great commander in no time.
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