Azura

As much as I am excited for the next battlefield, that rumor is off the rocks imo. I think the Diablo 3 rumor looked exactly the same, using things all ready in the game and enhancing them to make it look very very plausible, then adding other similar game features. I'll bet my pay check we'll see a release in 2008-09, but it seems very odd why they would put all that into an investors packet, another thing EA is the executive producer of the game!

But still enough I'm looking forward to another Bf as always, I just wish they had a battle in NYC!

On another note, the majority of my lag and network issues seem gone, besides the server crashes I seem to running fine now!

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Axis of Eeevil

I'd submit that Joint Operations came very close, and even got some things better. I wish an updated sequel with would come out for that...

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MDFubar

The best thing I liked about JO was that the daylight actually changed. Still not a bad game, but BF series is definetly the best.

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Uranium - 235

Sadly BF could do a HELL of a lot better, but they have to appeal too much to the mainstream retard to make it much more hardcore. Simply put, there's way too much 'individual power' in the game. It ALWAYS annoys me how one guy can drive and use the main gun on a tank at the same time, and on the other side of the coin, one guy can run through a base throwing homing mines of instant fiery death. In BF2 there was the awesome ability for a guy to fly an F-15E and drop ridiculously huge payloads of mass death over and over.

Tribes 2 was the winner in that aspect as far as I'm concerned. Two-man tanks, one driver and one gunner. Three-man bombers - a pilot, a bombardier / bellygunner, and a 'tailgunner' which would greatly augment the power of the bomber, the third player could be a heavy armor, carry a sensor jammer to make the bomber stealth or a repair pack to do in-flight maintenance, and most importantly was the only defense against missiles and airborne threats. Honestly, how does BF's chunky, moronic, and simple handling of vehicles compare to that?

The game has a lot of teamwork potential, but overall the teamwork side is REALLY quite secondary, it's really easy to just lonewolf and be a pimple on your team's ass, which is what 90% of the Xbox FPS kiddies want to do :/

PS: Sniper rifles = INSTANT FPS FAIL in my book. They're pretty much put in only so the developers don't have to hear the CS tards whine about how they aren't in. I've been FPS gaming for over a decade and I've yet to see any purpose to a sniper rifle except to give socially-impaired *******s the ability to piss other people off. I can think up pretend scenarios in my head about the 'sniper covers his team', but honestly, that NEVER happens. Every sniper just lies prone on a hillside trying to grab some easy frags while totally ignoring their objectives. Sorry TGers, but sniper rifles really just aren't necessary at all.

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birdie_in_Texas

spoken like one who is pwned regularly with the barret! Luckily this is a place where opinions can be aired...

you ought to get CoD4 and hop on one of our CoD4 servers...you "think" sniping? you gotta see it to believe it..!

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Takk

My affair wasn't brief...nor was it really intentional. Nor was it to another game. My affair was with the evil dominatix of not having an internet connection. The pain, and horror I have faced....is unspeakable.

Uranium - 235

Neh, the whole 'You don't like it so you must suck / get owned' thing is really immature tbh. I don't get completely owned by Engineers in TF2, nor do I suck at them (how can you suck at something a blind kid could play?), but that doesn't mean Engineers aren't a skilless, irritating roadblock class.

I'm an acceptably decent sniper,and I don't really get sniped a lot. In my infinitely huge experience with FPS games, I've just come to find that snipers are stupid. Most people gravitate to the concept so they can get easy, cheap kills without exposing themselves to risk. Furthermore, the entire nature of a sniper generally relies on lying prone on a hillside getting tunnel vision and ignoring everything, which fundamentally means one guy on your team who isn't playing with anyone else who just cares about his own score.

The flipside of the coin are 'combat snipers' which you find now and then, and you, armed with a heavy-hitting automatic rifle, turn a corner and come face-to-face with a guy with a single-shot same-caliber rifle, who somehow does 12x more damage to you in one shot, and that's just annoying. If you shoot me in the face with your Park sniper rifle, I shouldn't die any faster than a bullet to the face at the hands of a SCAR. We're talking ballistics here, okay? Why would a semi-realistic war-game have a weapon that fires the same round (presumably, at least in BF2) do more damage just because it has a scope? Bullets do not work that way. A 5.56 sniper rifle to the gut, and a 5.56 M-16 shot to the gut are going to pretty much do the same thing.

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Freeboter

If there weren't any snipers who would I knife?

Uranium - 235

Teammates? Rocks? Neighbors?

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DaBrit

Uranium, maybe you should read the "How to write a nomination for a ribbon" thread, found here:
http://www.tacticalgamer.com/tactica...omination.html
Also, check out this AAR of a recent scrim of the 3rd's:
http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...ntry-only.html

One of the examples for a good nomination is for the sniper ribbon. I'm a terrible shot with the sniper, and tend to get picked off fairly frequently and by the same person more than once. Nonetheless, I do believe that in the right hands a sniper can make an excellent addition to a team, pinning squads, laying down suppressive fire, etc.

And if someone's going to be lone-wolfing, would you rather have them high up on a hill losing a ticket every 5-10 minutes, or running around like a chicken with its head cut off in the middle of the map, losing a ticket every 30 seconds?

I think that sniping well takes an extraordinary amount of skill. And while I don't claim to have an "infinitely huge" knowledge of FPS', I've been around the block.

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Tarenth

From my experience single shot rifles have a great deal more impact to them than automatic rifles. Mainly because with a single shot you're not concerned with recoil so you can carry more power with each shot. Not enough of a gunbuff to tell you if that's a propellant, caliber, or some other change in the type of ammo used.

A rifle is a rifle. An automatic rifle is a cross between the stopping power of the rifle and the fire power of a submachine gun. On a related note, a submachine gun is a cross between the fire power of a machine gun with the stopping power of a pistol.

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Uranium - 235

Only thing I could think that'd attribute to would be either:

1) Longer muzzle.
2) Gas-powered reloading takes some energy.

Either way if you said you were going to shoot me in the face with either weapon I don't think I'd care much which one

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Zhohar

.... you've never seen a TG sniper, have you? That's a sad state of affairs mate.
Come join me on the TG server tonight, we'll play a two-man sniper squad.
Snipers don't sit on high ledges and keep tunnel vision. Those who do end up with a BJ12 in their soft bits.
Snipers move and inflict fear. The purpose of a sniper is to break up clumps of people by fear. The purpose of a sniper is to spot enemies so that your team mates can see them. The purpose of a sniper is disorient seven people by firing a single shot because they all just dove for cover.
The purpose of a sniper is not to be a sedentary leech on the team. There are Voss leeches and there are Zeller leeches: speak against the leeches and not the weapons.

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Tarenth

I could shoot you in the face at point blank with a pistol and you wouldn't care because you'd be just as dead. But at 500 yards I'm going to want the sniper rifle to reach out and touch someone.

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My sanity is not in question...
It was a confirmed casualty some time ago.