INSUNABULA

Not exactly what I would do Specterr, it's distracting to your team member being shot by anyone so you aren't helping your team by doing that. Either take pot shots at the enemy's head on single shot or wait for a victor.

My 2 cents.

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Specterr

Well, I'm not saying I spray them both down in a frenzy of bullets. I do take aim to try to shoot the right guy, and since I use the baur it's always on single shot anyways, but if they are doing their little duel dance it's not hard for your teammate to catch a round of two by mistake, this used to bother me, now it doesn't

INSUNABULA

Well then that's fair enough mate

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Augustus Gloop

We think about things a little differently here at TG.

I loved your writeup, and that's exactly how I'd like my knife fights to play out before the match starts.

During the match, my squad and my team are relying on me to do everything within my power that doesn't violate the spirit or letter of the TG rules to win. Risking my ticket in an honorable knife fight is letting my team down, even if I win, because I could have dispatched my opponent in one burst and then returned to watching my teammates' backs.

Which does not mean that TG folks should avoid using their knife. In many situations where my opponent doesn't see me coming I whip it out as an object lesson in situational awareness. If I miss (which happens more than I'd like to admit) I put my knife away and shoot the guy. I've also run out of rifle ammo, switched to pistol, emptied that clip, and pulled my knife to try and earn myself more ammo or a chance to reload in peace.

Those people who are out to cover themselves in glory by suicidally rushing into a gun battle with their knives out will be removed from the server. I have very little patience with showboating at the expense of your team.

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Adaxa

On the very rare (as rare as Bigfoot) instances that I do knife fight, I win, I teabag, and I move on.

Usually I shoot them in the face for being so stupid to do that on a TG server. And then viciously teabag them. Don't knife fight on a TG server, or any server, unless it's a knife server. Just don't.

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Rasta-GR

Nice writing, but this time you missed to capture the TG spirit.

No "Knights Honor" here for knife duels, it's year 2142

If I see someone try to knife my squadmates, I will definetely try to shoot him down.

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MDFubar

Thia all being said, I would pull my knife to instigate the intial knife fight..........then pull out the Clark and drop them like my ex-wife!!

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westyfield

I personally only really use my knife when I sneak up behind an enemy... before I discovered TG I used to go for knife kills all the time and get shot a lot. Taught me a good lesson.

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daithi1

When I see knife fights on the TG server I fire regardlessly in the direction. If I kill the guy on our team meh he was being a noob

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draeh

If I see a knife fight on the TG server, I help out my teammate. I figure they are only in a knife fight because they either ran out of ammo or got caught reloading. If I'm carrying a defib., I'm a little bit more in-discriminant about firing. I can always help our chap back up if I accidentally take them down too.

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vertomac

Wow! Did I miss something here or what? I read through a many of the posts here and many of them blast this guy's post. So, I read through his dissertation again thinking I might have had one ale to many. Once again it made good tactical sense to me.

OK. Here's a senario. I'm running along behind my squad leader. He unsheathes his knife and gets ready to knife this bloke in the back. Suddenly, the enemy realizes something's up and draws out his knife. A knife duel has begun. Nothing ritualistic here. Now in most knife fights (I have not seen a single one where both are standing still), there is a whole lot of gyration going on. Who among you is going to spray lead into this melee. If you're like me, you're likely to take out you're squad leader as well as the enemy. Yes, you can attempt to revive him, but what happens if you go down before that? Where are you going to spawn? Under any circumstance, it is better to let them alone, take out any other conacts nearby, and keep a watchful eye on your squad leader's progress. If, SL goes down, plug the enemy SOB square between eyes and then revive you're squad leader.

I don't know. Maybe I'm talking out my *** here, but Shurikane's post sure seems to fit within the spirit of our credo.

My two cents!

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skullhedman

With a Herzog or a Clark you can take out the enemy in one shot in that situation.

Your SL probably won't run up and knife someone though. On our servers there is a minimal chance you're going to run into a single contact at any given point. 90% of the time there is going to be 2 - 5 others in the area with him. Most of which will probably be medics. If you pop a knife and knife someone (and they are all miraculously looking away from you - which would never happen, most squads cover all directions,) the medics will hear, and turn to defib them - you've been made, and chances are you're stuck with only a knife in hand against a full squad.

Your SL will probably just gun the contact down and keep moving. The idea is to down the enemy LONG before your SL ever has a chance to go down. Your SL should never be at the head of a charge - precisely because they are a mobile spawn point.

There are tactical applications to knives. If your alone, and quick, you can knife two or three people and get lucky - they won't see you. Or you might know someone's moving around a corner. you can knife at the corner when they come around and hope they are close enough to take down. But really, there aren't many times when a knife will come in handy.

It's usually just luck. You spawn in on a flag that's being attacked, and happen to find a lone attacker standing with their back to you. If you're close, knife them, lucky day. If you're at a distance, just drop them with your assault rifle and move back into the fray.

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Augustus Gloop

The squad leader has to put his squad before himself. Everyone gets carried away now and then, but if the showboating goes badly...

In this case, I would expect my SL to turn and run. Cowardly? Practical. His squad probably doesn't need any space between them to mow down the enemy, but every little bit helps. If they're so far away that they can't shoot one without the other, what is he doing?

Knife contests take too long, period. What are you going to do to this guy when he cuts down your SL anyway? Engage him one by one in single knife combat? With luck, someone will drop an orbital on your heads and do your team a favor.

I think both of you are talented, and have great instincts for TG. You want to share your knowledge and contribute to the community. Awesome!

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