Shurikane

Considering the success of my last bulletin, I decided to follow up with a little article on the carving tool. Those who frequent other forums will notice I pulled this one out of the mothballs, but for those who havent... Hello!



The time-honored traditional act of knifing is widely regarded as the separator between rookie and master, humiliator and humiliated, the attacker's public callout that the defender wasn't in a proper place and doing the right thing. Waving a dogtag in front of a victim's eyes is delivering a loud message that says "You had a moment of weakness."

Knifers gain respect for being bold, for sneaking behind the enemy and for taking the risk of melee fighting against an opponent armed with a fully locked and loaded gun.

Over time, there came guidelines that distinguished the true knifer from the deceitful, and the honorable defender from the coward. These guidelines are oft unspoken - they develop gradually, as if the knifers were connected to a cliqued collective mind that subconsciously explained to them the path to honor. Like the two lone samurai, like the sumo wrestlers, knifing has a proper etiquette that has turned it into the noble sport it is today.

Those guidelines, I shall explain them now.


THE INTRODUCTION
It is known among the ranks of knifers that the stages of a fight must always go in order of decreasing range. Whoever pulls out the knife may not sheathe it back until his victim is dead or his attention is diverted elsewhere while from a faraway range. The knifer will never coax his enemy into a duel and then shoot him. He will remain, knife brandished, until it is over.

The defender is allowed to use the primary gun at his disposition upon making visual contact with the knifer, thereby legally "declining the challenge". As well, any soldier may attack the knifer at will. If the defender runs out of bullets, he may choose to reload or switch to another weapon - pistol, RDX APMs, etc. A successful defender earns kudos on the basis that he watched his surroundings, his teammates were alert and his aim was on the mark. The sooner he kills the knifer, the better.

THE DUEL
Should the defender choose to use his knife, all fire in this direction should stop, and the two knifers should not be harmed in any intentional way by surrounding soldiers until the duel is settled. At this point, the two men are on their own. A defender who pulls out the knife first and foremost deserves the mark of courage of a real man, moreso than the one who attempted to defend by gun, but ran out of ammunition.

In the provocation of a duel, both men show their respect for each other and for themselves. Though victory is always a moment of bliss, it must be enjoyed in a sober manner, while giving full regards to the enemy for his courageous and honorable act. Saying "good fight" if possible, and moving on immediately after the end of the duel is usually the "proper burial" of the vanquished. Insults and teabagging are highly frowned upon in the knifer community.

As soon as the duel ends, the victor is once again at the mercy of any enemy surrounding him, and the vanquished at the good services of any nearby medic.

THE FOLLOWUP
Each knife fight is a single-shot session. There is no rematch or revenge to be had in the official sense - especially since the two rivals cannot identify each other in the heat of battle. Rather, each duel is played without regard for whatever happened before, and if it so happens that the same two knifers meet on several occasions, then so has fate chosen to play. The difference between one and one hundred tags from the same person is nil, and whether two rivals have each other's tags or not is irrelevant - all that counts is whether both combatants honored the knife or not.


In summary, to honor the knife is to:
1) Defend from a knife starting with main weapon/equipment in hand, then alternative, then knife in that order. One may skip steps at any time.
2) Not to attack two rivals who have pulled out their knives. Likewise, only two men to a fight.
3) Be respectful to one's rival, be it in victory or defeat, for knife combatants must show gallantry and humility in performing their art.

__________________

JamesTerror

I wish this would happen...

__________________
|TG-Irr|JamesTerror

Cheese in my ears and Donuts around my fingers

vertomac

Well put! This is what's at the heart of the Tactical Gamer community, not whether you win or lose, or whether you own someone else's tags but how you play the game with maturity, dignity, honor and skill. I'll sign off on this. This definitely raises the bar on the code of honor and rules of engagement. Ya, you definitely shared a jewel here. Thanks for the reminder about what we stand for.

__________________
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant and vanished. ... Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.
– Excerpt from V's introduction

Damonte

If Damonte encounters two individuals attempting to knife duel while on the TG server, he will not hesitate to shoot the enemy and move on. If Damonte finds that any member of his squad attempts to participate in such a ritualistic duel during a combat engagement, that member will find themselves removed from the squad. Such activities are a waste of time and do not further the objectives of a TG squad. The only reason that a TG squad member should engage an enemy who is aware of their presence with a knife is if they are out of ammunition or their guns are in need of reloading.

If two individuals wish to knife duel, find a private server.

__________________


....

Anospa

Aye, bringing a knife to a gunfight is just plain foolish. Knifing is fun and great, but if you get yourself killed, you're doing your team a great disservice. Whenever someone runs at me with a knife, I'll never pull mine out to, "answer their challenge," or whatnot. The closest thing I'll do is pull out a defib, only so I don't have to worry about friendly fire.

Doesn't mean I'm against knifing. I've been known to go crazy with the knife every now and then, but try not to get myself killed doing so. It can be a very useful weapon because of the 1 shot kill it gives, and how people sometimes react freaking out that someone will get their tags, making them slip up and become an easier kill.

I think you should rethink you views towards knifing in terms of TG's approach to gaming.

__________________





"Brittle?! Dude you just took a localized tactical warhead to the face." -Eroak

Razcsak

I see no reason to wait and let a knife-fight be resolved by the two combatants. Just shoot the bugger, pick up your ally if necessary, and move on.

__________________

nuckj

I often find myself Teabagging enemies that I didn't even kill myself...lol.

__________________

9th MID | 2142 Profile | New to TG?

Lorax74

This will probably show up in this thread sooner or later, so why not now and get it out of the way:


This is how I choose to deal with people who rush me with a knife on our server.

__________________
TG-9th Lorax74

Crux

Shurikane, you are clearly new to TG. Tactical Gamer stresses mature, goal-oriented play with a strong focus on teamwork. While knifing can have some tactical applications, knife duels do not. The kind of mindset and culture you describe above will thankfully never be a part of the gameplay here. Expect to get shot while trying to initiate a knife duel. A lot.

__________________

sc1ence

a great time to knife duel is during server seeding time when you are sitting around waiting for a game to start. But that is about the only time you will see someone trying to have knife fight on our server. Trying to innitiate a knife duel on our server on a regular basis will result in a warn, kick then ban. I understand the apeal of using a knife dualing honor system. But on TG, we play as a team. Knife dualing is 1 on 1. It really has no place on our server other than the occasional late night spontainius encounter with a friend. We are not inhuman, we understand the apeal to play as an individual, just try to check your ego at the door when you get on a TG server. Individual achievements are nice, but they pale in comparison to playing as an unselfish teamate. The point is to win the game playing it in a way that is consistent with the reality of the game world. Knife dualing breaks that simulation aspect of it. In the future, there are no honorable knife fights.

__________________

Eroak

Heh, I ran into a building once by Comm Tower. I ran up the stairs and unloaded my voss but somehow slipped and hit 1 and pulled my knife, So with little reaction time I ran up and took a swipe at him missing, meanwhile he draws his knife and circle dances or something that knifers do. I realize my distance from him dancing ahs giving me a chance to reweild my voss and draw it for a easy kill. He went into chat screaming that I borke the rules, I'm like "what rules?" We usally frown upon unnessery knifing. If anything you should be in trouble for dancing while on our server. But all in all I'm alive and still with my squad. That's most importent.

__________________

Takk

Sorry to hijack the thread..but I loved that video Lorax.

Ok..please continue.

Azura

I gotta disagree, as much fun killing someone with a knife, just shooting them and moving on is the best. You have plenty of options before taking out your knife, but just don't expect a lot of people here to take it out when you run out. I sure as hell won't!

__________________

INSUNABULA

Hi again there Shuriane, it was another very nice write-up and a great read and not taking anything away from your post but the other guys are right.

Those type of rules are very pertinent on a knife-only server and is a true outline of how memebers of those servers should respect and honour each other.

I also understand Vertomatic's post as anything to do with the respect of others is welcomed here. But a rule that surpasses all those that Shurikane listed is the rule of "Teamwork" one of the very founding rules of Tactical Gamer.

Thanks for your input gentlemen, I can see that you are both fast becoming valid members of TG.

__________________

Specterr

Before when I saw a knife duel I used to hold my fire, not out of respect for the duel but so I wouldn't hit my teammate if I missfired...now I've got so little patience for it I just open fire and if I catch my teammate with a few rounds so be it.