machowner

I got on a couple of rounds tonight, I didn't think teamwork was too bad. Not very many regulars on tonight but overall, a good showing by the pubbies.

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Shurikane

It depends heavily on the squad I'm in. If it's led by a TG member or a TG regular, things usually flow smoothly. Otherwise, it's no voice, no mike, deaf and mute from beginning to end. When I joined in yesterday, my squad was spread over three flags.

I don't remember if we won or lost under these conditions... All I know is that I felt more lone wolf than anything else and I usually had to guess what my SL was thinking when I saw him move around.

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Bobslovski

Servers are always going to have pubbies with no teamwork every now and again, what i do if the squad has no teamwork i just start my own and kick anyone who joins and doesnt listen , at least that way im not relying on anyone to revive me or anything, so il play more safe.

Adaxa

I have to admit, I am guilty of straying away from my squad sometimes. Usually it's because I don't pay attention to the minimap and follow another squad, thinking it's mine. But yes, I have noticed the lack of teamwork too.

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Vortex421

Well, played last night and teamwork was outstanding. Took on a couple pubbies and a couple TG members and had a few great wounds before things disintegrated at Berlin. Yeah.

My biggest gripe was lack of commanders with mics or any sort of communications whatsoever. I consider it an unwritten rule that you'd better have a mic if you want to comamnd, because as commander you get to see the big picture. I, as squad leader, cannot see the sat tracks as they move past, so I don't know what the situation is on the ground at all times. But, a commander who has a mic can relay information back - give orders, give information that may be critical to the completion of those orders, and relay info from squad to squad.

Sorry, my two cents.

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SKsniper128

I agree, but my problem is AFK and fighting commanders, when they sign up for commander, you expect them to be able to be able to command. Many times while I'm playing I can't help wonder why the commander is silent, or why he won't respond to our squad's requests for OS, EMP, UAV, or supplies. These idiots give orders to the squads at the start of the round and doesn't do anything else the rest of the round.

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300 to 1? No problem. Might need more bullets though...

Vortex421

Oh, I agree that AFK and fighting commanders go hand in hand, but in TG those are kick-able offenses. Rules state that a commander must command and not participate in the battle, and a commander who does not issue orders except at the start of the round is anathema. But in my mind, I get a bit flustered at commanders who do issue orders and are present but do not have mics or use them to provide me with the information that I, as a Squad Lead, need to do my job well.

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"Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!"
"Rule 39: There is no such thing as "overkill". There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload".
"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

SKsniper128

True , true but a commander with no mike is better than a commander who is not present at all.

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300 to 1? No problem. Might need more bullets though...

rage4order

Unless that commander is Rage, then you may wish my mike was broken...Um I talk a lot!

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Shurikane

The problem at this point becomes one of the commander issuing orders on an arbitrary basis without some reason as to why he's doing it. I come across several micless commanders who will go right ahead and order me to the far side of the map without any explanation whatsoever. Sad to say, but most commanders I deal with usually just drop the occasional UAV and supply box. They don't even have VoIP enabled, so they can't hear me when I formulate a request and thus never get an answer.

Truth be told, I grew to operate without a commander at all. I issue my orders as I see fit and it's extremely rare that a CO actually sends me somewhere on purpose. More often than not, the CO orders me to the same spot I had ordered myself to(!) or puts a MOVE order on a spot I had an ATTACK order ON (double !)

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SKsniper128

Meh, unless you spam the comm channel with crap then I won't care too much.

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300 to 1? No problem. Might need more bullets though...

Augustus Gloop

I've been known to argue with commanders who order my squad off the flag we're defending to hit a flag that's across the map and being spammed by the rest of our team. Our 6 bodies MIGHT be the tipping point, but we'll lose the line that we've been holding. Most of the time when I present my objections to the commander, they will silently reverse their orders and allow me to continue. If they repeat their orders, I will ask them if they're sure. An affirmative will have my squad moving. If they ignore my requests for clarification, then unfortunately their orders got garbled.

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big-eye101

I do the very same

I allways talk to the commander if he orders me to some strange location! "Are you realy sure you want us there??? Because we are in a good position to hit/defend xyz!"

I only once had a commander who told me the purpose of his order! And then my squad were heading for the new flag

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HBrutusH

I thought that was because they only get points for orders that they issue, so they may re-issue your order to net a few extra points.

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Shurikane

Nope! Doesn't matter who called the shot. If there's a squad leader success point, it gets distributed to everyone whom may concern. That means one teamwork point to the SM, one SL success point to the SL, and one CO bonus point to the CO.

In the end, the CO bonus points don't even have much of a meaning since they are career points and are not part of the end round score.

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