Accusations? how to deal - Page 2

**Lorax74** · 02-29-2008, 12:11 PM

To me, that is UCB camping. PAC has no advantages on that map and they have an extremly tough fight just getting to the first flag. As an admin, I would warn and kick for that, yes.

This is my interpretation of the PAC UCB line, if you are EU and to the East of this line and not on an asset destruction run, you are UCB camping.

Lyramion · 02-29-2008, 12:24 PM

A thing I have NEVER EVER seen in my 2142 career:

A squad in EU side Berlin named "Assets"! That be one hell of a thing to pull off AND stay true to our rules

TOOmuchMcLovin · 02-29-2008, 12:27 PM

thank ya

**Lorax74** · 02-29-2008, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyramion

A thing I have NEVER EVER seen in my 2142 career:

A squad in EU side Berlin named "Assets"! That be one hell of a thing to pull off AND stay true to our rules

At the beginning it is not possible (and yes, I've tried) but halfway through a round, if PAC has broken out they forget all about their UCB and it's easier than you would think.

**Arithea** · 02-29-2008, 02:41 PM

Generally, the furthest back I put mines on Berlin (as EU) is the corner where the road turns into that southern hallway--the one just south of the back of the building right on the Crossroads flag. That way, the PAC's APC and walker can both be brought to bear, but can't advance without mine bait.

Also, remember that just because someone doesn't get in trouble for doing something doesn't mean they were doing things right. Someone might should have reported the other squad near you, as well.

Next time, you might try to get the name of the person reporting you and send them a PM. We all mess up our violation reports, sometimes. However, in this case, I simply think you had a different understanding of how things are supposed to work, and sending a PM to the person who reported you, then checking with the admin team, would be a good way for you to gain an understanding of why your actions were viewed the way they were.

**Eroak** · 02-29-2008, 06:07 PM

I'm gonna step in and make 2 points. First, no person should ever call out another in our public forums. Please don't ask anyone to confess or apologize publicly.

Secondly, We have a contact an admin forum for questions like this. This should have been posted there if you have a issue with a rule or to clear up a question. We have open door policy and any member here and come and PM us or post about issues. I don't want to draw up negative posts and get people annoyed with each other.

**rage4order** · 03-01-2008, 03:56 PM

Take a look at this thread as well, It is not a official TG ruling but a great guidline if you are unsure of what is too close...

http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...b-borders.html

TOOmuchMcLovin · 03-02-2008, 02:59 PM

roger

good stuff :P

**DaBrit** · 03-02-2008, 03:16 PM

I don't have access to that page, Rage

**Lorax74** · 03-02-2008, 03:21 PM

That thread has been moved. It will be restored pending the outcome of an admin discussion.

**machowner** · 03-02-2008, 09:47 PM

Well hopefully it comes back. If not a admin backed decision it could still be a gentlemen's agreement and just a general guideline to think about. Help new guys to understand what we believe the size of the uncap base to be.

DLBlue · 03-04-2008, 03:10 PM

Thats too close bud... way too close. The picture Lorax posted is about as damn near as clsoe as it is going to get.

SharinganTH1422 · 03-04-2008, 03:20 PM

Yh, a little too close, my rule is, If you can shoot at the people in the UCB, even with rockets, it's too close. And Damonte's point about putting mines on that corner is not a rule set in stone here at TG, but considered unsporting.

TOOmuchMcLovin · 03-05-2008, 01:57 AM

FYI guys I used what i saw in the other thread as a general reference point for the future.

But part of what pissed me off to such an extent was dude calling my out about my tag in game chat. Fake wannabe ect. Ok lets take the negative point of view. My newb self, with less than 60 game hours, made a mistake. A simple McLovin thats too close stay out of that area ect would have sufficed.

The otherside, that person was mistaken and pretty much just made me, as a representative of this group, look really bad, especially wording it as if i was being malicious.

TOOmuchMcLovin · 03-05-2008, 01:59 AM

But anyway thanks for the feedback peeps. I wont push that far again

and now for a word from our sponsor...McLovin's bf video, u seen it?

02-29-2008, 12:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
Lorax74 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Age: 34 Posts: 5,463	Re: Accusations? how to deal To me, that is UCB camping. PAC has no advantages on that map and they have an extremly tough fight just getting to the first flag. As an admin, I would warn and kick for that, yes. This is my interpretation of the PAC UCB line, if you are EU and to the East of this line and not on an asset destruction run, you are UCB camping. __________________ Ikariam (Alpha) Bayhios [35:70] > Truax (c) - Wine Streardeos [39:70] > New Truax - Marble Meikaios[35:68] > Truax Minor - Crystal . Last edited by Lorax74; 04-10-2008 at 08:23 PM.

02-29-2008, 12:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Lyramion Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 860	Re: Accusations? how to deal A thing I have NEVER EVER seen in my 2142 career: A squad in EU side Berlin named "Assets"! That be one hell of a thing to pull off AND stay true to our rules __________________ Stage6 My BF2142 Videos Youtube

02-29-2008, 12:27 PM	#18 (permalink)
TOOmuchMcLovin Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 352	Re: Accusations? how to deal thank ya __________________ Bf2142-TOOmuchMcLovin America's Army- -=No.Ob=-McLovin Bf2-TOOmuchSEX

02-29-2008, 02:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
Arithea Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Port, Florida Age: 25 Posts: 1,785	Re: Accusations? how to deal Generally, the furthest back I put mines on Berlin (as EU) is the corner where the road turns into that southern hallway--the one just south of the back of the building right on the Crossroads flag. That way, the PAC's APC and walker can both be brought to bear, but can't advance without mine bait. Also, remember that just because someone doesn't get in trouble for doing something doesn't mean they were doing things right. Someone might should have reported the other squad near you, as well. Next time, you might try to get the name of the person reporting you and send them a PM. We all mess up our violation reports, sometimes. However, in this case, I simply think you had a different understanding of how things are supposed to work, and sending a PM to the person who reported you, then checking with the admin team, would be a good way for you to gain an understanding of why your actions were viewed the way they were. __________________ my tank is burning not an enemy in sight Arithea lurks -Spiff913 WeeWar: Arithea Ikariam: Arithea, Chehios [88:57] Ankh-Morpork, Crystal Glass .....Find me! Send me stuff! ....................... Rhiatheos [88:56] Sto Lat, Wine ...................Find me! Send me stuff! ....................... Echeeos [87:57] Lancre, Marble ...................Find me! Send me stuff!

02-29-2008, 06:07 PM	#21 (permalink)
Eroak Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In a AC-130 shooting 105's at you. Age: 28 Posts: 2,657	Re: Accusations? how to deal I'm gonna step in and make 2 points. First, no person should ever call out another in our public forums. Please don't ask anyone to confess or apologize publicly. Secondly, We have a contact an admin forum for questions like this. This should have been posted there if you have a issue with a rule or to clear up a question. We have open door policy and any member here and come and PM us or post about issues. I don't want to draw up negative posts and get people annoyed with each other. __________________ Do you know your roots? R.I.P. Lost Fires - June 16, 2001 - June 18, 2008 An EverQuest guild - We miss you Faylon

03-01-2008, 03:56 PM	#22 (permalink)
rage4order Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern Colorado Age: 38 Posts: 2,668	Re: Accusations? how to deal Take a look at this thread as well, It is not a official TG ruling but a great guidline if you are unsure of what is too close... http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...b-borders.html __________________ \|TG-8th\|RAGE *SigPic provided by www.davidclair.com* New to TG start HERE * 8th Mercs * Admin List * Supporting Membership Quote Sc1ence: "My parachute pants are rad! Check out all the zippers!" *****

03-02-2008, 02:59 PM	#23 (permalink)
TOOmuchMcLovin Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 352	Re: Accusations? how to deal roger good stuff :P __________________ Bf2142-TOOmuchMcLovin America's Army- -=No.Ob=-McLovin Bf2-TOOmuchSEX

03-02-2008, 03:16 PM	#24 (permalink)
DaBrit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 724	Re: Accusations? how to deal I don't have access to that page, Rage __________________ TG-9th - By Any Means

03-02-2008, 03:21 PM	#25 (permalink)
Lorax74 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Age: 34 Posts: 5,463	Re: Accusations? how to deal That thread has been moved. It will be restored pending the outcome of an admin discussion. __________________ Ikariam (Alpha) Bayhios [35:70] > Truax (c) - Wine Streardeos [39:70] > New Truax - Marble Meikaios[35:68] > Truax Minor - Crystal .

03-02-2008, 09:47 PM	#26 (permalink)
machowner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Tazewell, TN Posts: 2,723	Re: Accusations? how to deal Well hopefully it comes back. If not a admin backed decision it could still be a gentlemen's agreement and just a general guideline to think about. Help new guys to understand what we believe the size of the uncap base to be. __________________ \|New to TG? Start here\|*\|Become a Supporting Member\|*\|What is Frontlines?\| "Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!"

03-04-2008, 03:10 PM	#27 (permalink)
DLBlue Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 232	Re: Accusations? how to deal Thats too close bud... way too close. The picture Lorax posted is about as damn near as clsoe as it is going to get. __________________ ---Bellicosity---

03-04-2008, 03:20 PM	#28 (permalink)
SharinganTH1422 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: East London, England, UK Age: 18 Posts: 1,101	Re: Accusations? how to deal Yh, a little too close, my rule is, If you can shoot at the people in the UCB, even with rockets, it's too close. And Damonte's point about putting mines on that corner is not a rule set in stone here at TG, but considered unsporting. __________________ Anger is a gift - Malcolm X BF2142 - Sharingan1422

03-05-2008, 01:57 AM	#29 (permalink)
TOOmuchMcLovin Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 352	Re: Accusations? how to deal FYI guys I used what i saw in the other thread as a general reference point for the future. But part of what pissed me off to such an extent was dude calling my out about my tag in game chat. Fake wannabe ect. Ok lets take the negative point of view. My newb self, with less than 60 game hours, made a mistake. A simple McLovin thats too close stay out of that area ect would have sufficed. The otherside, that person was mistaken and pretty much just made me, as a representative of this group, look really bad, especially wording it as if i was being malicious. __________________ Bf2142-TOOmuchMcLovin America's Army- -=No.Ob=-McLovin Bf2-TOOmuchSEX

03-05-2008, 01:59 AM	#30 (permalink)
TOOmuchMcLovin Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 352	Re: Accusations? how to deal But anyway thanks for the feedback peeps. I wont push that far again and now for a word from our sponsor...McLovin's bf video, u seen it? __________________ Bf2142-TOOmuchMcLovin America's Army- -=No.Ob=-McLovin Bf2-TOOmuchSEX

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