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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    And thanks to Gloop and all the other admins who are always attempting to improve our TG 2142 experience.
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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    Well, I tend to show up late to the parties time after time. I guess you could say that I prefer seeing how the thing pans out before I throw in my two cents - though with inflation and the economy I think it's down to a penny and a half.

    Anyways. Uranium - I understand your frustration. Believe me, there's nothing worse than falling into monotony with a game you love and enjoy. I think that when people read your posts they mistook your desire to mix things up on the TG server as a symptom of falling into that monotony I just spoke of. It may be the incorrect assessment, but it seems to be the case. Miscommunication happens, my friend - just don't let it send your blood pressure skyrocketing... high blood pressure is best saved for viewing expensive medical bills or attorneys.

    There's a classic saying - you will catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. To that end, I think that if we work on it, we can build up community consensus for some changes to be made - or at least, get admins like Gloop hard at work on the issue. For example, I bet that if you set up a poll in the forums about what people would like to see more of in the 2142 servers, you'd probably get a good idea right there. Some may want to see Titan maps again, some may want to see more armor, and some may want to see Frosty Friday returned (hint hint, Lorax!). I'll go ahead and fire up a poll, if you'd like.

    Now, I will admit that there are times when I find the Conquest server a dry and boring place. Sometimes it seems to me that I've seen every trick in the book done. But then something comes along and surprises me. Or I get a flash of inspiration. Have you seen where the squads I've been leading lately on defense at Camp Gib have wound up? Back wall of Toll Station. I discovered that setting up two or three people with Ganz HMGs to cover the wall and ground corridors could make a mess of people. I just started developing it last week - was hoping to keep it a secret until I refined it a bit. Sometimes the game reminds me of chess - you may have 16 basic moves that are always made in the game, but the combination of those basic moves makes the game interesting. I love chess for that reason, and I sometimes look on the battlefield as a game of chess and try to use those basic moves in ways that my counterparts on the other side are not expecting. Sometimes a buggy dash up Camp Gib achieves a breakthrough - sometimes it does not. No two battlefields ever wind up exactly the same.

    Like I said, I understand where you're coming from. You're among friends here - never forget that.

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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus Gloop View Post
    To everyone else: NOW THAT'S THE TG I WANT TO SEE! Uranium's tone struck me as a bit harsh, but you all took it in stride and offered constructive advice. I'm almost afraid that the natural laws of anonymous internet idiocy will rebound causing the forum server blow up. +rep for everyone I can.

    I personally will take Uranium's complaint personally, and kick over a few dustbunnies in the admin forum in a discussion of what we can do to change up your 2142 experience.

    Thanks to EVERYONE involved.
    Now you made me feel bad

    For what it's worth, the one Conquest map we don't have that I understand why we don't have is Minsk. I remember the discussion long ago, that the first flag is such a grinding chokepoint that it'll take 100+ flags for the first team to even get it.

    We can still try it again, but I remember that that wasn't an unsound argument.

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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    We do have Minsk occasionally. We try to have 2 vehicle maps in every rotation, and sometimes it's Minsk.

    Also, in re-reading the anonymous internet idiocy thing, I hope you didn't think that was directed at you! I was trying to make a joke about how internet forums are supposed to be negative and full of flame wars, but I think I didn't say it very well.

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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    hmm
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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    A month later and you add to this "hmm"?

    Hmmm......
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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    I will add to this

    I had a break and came back and the map rotation had changed and was much more stimulating than before

    I've put in a lot of hours with 2142 and its just like people have suggested in 2 broad options
    1) take a different angle on what you already have, ie start squad leading or try new tactics as squad leader (I've been doing this recently)
    2) play a similar game that is new to you ie try PR or POE2 (both free mods for BF2 and TG has the most sussessful North American servers in both mods)

    After saying all this, I am looking forward to the new maps in 1.5 patch !

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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    Until Monday night, I hadn't played since the BFCL 5v5 championship (February sometime... I think). Since then you guys have mixed up the rotation and adopted the BF2 once per map style. Far less crashes as well.

    I find this more invigorating. I can once again enjoy the 50 man pile-up.

    Well done Admins.



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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    yeah the maps can be the same and the strategies can be the same, but the outcome can always be different. two nights ago playing with a horde of TG-ers on fall of berlin there was action at every flag nearly the entire round and it came down to the very last ticket and a 1-0 win for the attacking PAC team (which i was on). i do agree that cebere,gib,and tunis seem like they are every other map and i want to log out for that round, but you never know whats going to happen on a TG game. i vote for Tampa to be more frequent, and a titan round.
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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    yes rage a month l8er i will add this, AGAIN

    hmm
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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    So picking up the game two years late has some advantages. Fighting against battle-hardened veterans, but whose heart might not be in it due to battle fatigue. There's a movie in this somewhere

    Play the Witcher, Stalker or something different for a while and I bet you'll come back to BF2142 refreshed...

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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Towuaway2 View Post
    yes rage a month l8er i will add this, AGAIN

    hmm
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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganTH1422 View Post
    It's no often that a post actually makes me laugh out loud, but this one did! +rep to you sir for brightening my day .



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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorax74 View Post
    It's no often that a post actually makes me laugh out loud, but this one did! +rep to you sir for brightening my day .
    I have to agree, I found myself laughing at this one...

    On to the topic at hand: I'm rather new to |TG| and right now thanks to finals my PC is stuck rendering out a model/animation so I have to pull my old P2 out of mothballs just to surf the net. Anyways, in two weeks when my finals are over I will be more then looking forward to getting back to BF2142.

    As for servers I would love to see a |TG| Titan server, I don't have NS yet so I can't take advantage of the current setup. Though I will add that it is my hope to get NS installed after exams. So either way I hope to be on the other |TG| server as well as the primary conquest server here soon.

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    Re: Conquest server getting old :(

    Quote Originally Posted by MDFubar View Post
    Titan, doesn't bring the players as most people actually prefer Conquest. The NS server was hardly ever utilized and the same goes for when we had a Titan server. My memory serves me that the secodn server was never really populated, and still isn't.
    I also like to mix it up a bit and the only reason I don't go into the other server is because it is always empty. Since I am not an admin I don't feel it is my job to seed your servers for you but when I was in a different community I took the problem server and turned it into one of the most popular simply by seeding all the time and inviting people in from TS to help me. It works. If someone at the management level wants to make that server work that's all it takes. Once it empties and stays empty for a while that emptiness feeds on itself, but the same is true for the opposite situation. Keep a few people in there all the time and turn off the idle kick so someone can go get groceries while helping to seed the server and it will start to pick up steam again.

    I'm not trying to complain or point fingers. I'm just saying all it takes is the will to turn it around. People don't go in because it's empty and it's empty because people don't go into it. If the server is to remain viable all it takes is for someone to take responsibility for it and change that situation. It isn't rocket science.

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