Wearing your tags, and breaking server rules: - Page 3

Towuaway2 · 05-13-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorax74

Jumping over or behind cover to avoid fire is perfectly legitimate, jumping to avoid fire with no cover in sight is not.

Good cause i was wondering that1

**Modkaman** · 05-14-2008, 12:04 AM

I don't think the bunny hopping rule applies to jumping out of the way of the FAV or any vehicle for that matter. I've jumped out of the way of a FAV on more than one occassion but I didn't jump more than once. Bunny hopping is plural and a jump is totally different, however, if the intent is to escape fire then I would consider it bunny hopping, even one time. But me personally, I consider it a legitamate strategy to jump out of the way of a FAV, besides IRL you wouldn't lay down in front of the vehicle and wait for it to pass over you. Your butt would jump out of the way....at least I'd like to think that I would.

Which is unlike bunny hopping to avoid fire which I would like to think no American would do IRL. Have you ever watched African militias shoot weapons, they're horrible at it. Come to think of it, bunny hopping could be a legitimate strategy IRL, because if I saw you do it I'd probably laugh so hard I wouldn't be able to fire my weapon straight.

**Razcsak** · 05-14-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by twiddilywink

So anyways is that okay? because sometimes if i am in fire and there is a wall or something, i'll jump over/around it and prone. Also, what about doing that if you know an enemy is around the wall. I have talked about this a lot and a lot of us think it is okay if you don't shoot. What do you all think about the jump>prone thing?

I don't know if its technically illegal, but jumping around a corner is at least similar in spirit to bunnyhopping. I wouldn't do it and I don't like it when people do.

**Damonte** · 05-14-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Photometric

People speaking about themselves in 3rd person is pretty creepy....giving yourself a warning on a server really really begs for someone to sit you down and say...it's ok...it's just a game.

Damonte does not understand what you mean?

**ionpig-A** · 05-14-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Damonte

Damonte does not understand what you mean?

heh

**SuperDudeBT** · 05-14-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sgt.rob

i'm a 'tard. i went and looked at the fav from both sides and saw there is a real difference. i still wouldnt try and lay down under one coming at me.

It actually works. I did it last night.

**ThaDoctah** · 05-14-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Azura

Why hop when you can prone? The EU FAV is not a low rider like it PAC counter part, if you go prone, half of the time (if it's driving straight) it'll pass right over you.... Before you get up, check those reverse lights!

Laying down in an attempt to avoid death flippies feels too much like giving up

I'd rather try to be a little more lively

**daithi1** · 05-14-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Photometric

People speaking about themselves in 3rd person is pretty creepy....giving yourself a warning on a server really really begs for someone to sit you down and say...it's ok...it's just a game.

What's wrong with speaking in the third person. D does it all the time.I don't think he reported himself, TheUrit did (well that'd be my interpretation of the post).

Acreo Aeneas · 05-15-2008, 01:14 AM

Glad to see a thread like this. Hopefully enough players read this and read the rules for once.

twiddilywink · 05-15-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Razcsak

I don't know if its technically illegal, but jumping around a corner is at least similar in spirit to bunnyhopping. I wouldn't do it and I don't like it when people do.

what i meant, is that you know the person is around the corner. So you jump at an angle then prone (but not firing) so you can get a headstart on them without walking around the corner then proning. I think i have only done that a couple times though.

**Razcsak** · 05-15-2008, 10:21 AM

Yes, I know what you meant. I think its stupid. Going prone is a terrible idea, typically. It turns your center of mass into your head and sets your reticle to as wide as it goes. Now, the way you're jumping and going prone in mid-air is designed to get around that feature deliberately programmed into the game. And yes, I believe that dolphin diving was considered banned at one point. If not, it really should be.

**DaBrit** · 05-15-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by twiddilywink

what i meant, is that you know the person is around the corner. So you jump at an angle then prone (but not firing) so you can get a headstart on them without walking around the corner then proning. I think i have only done that a couple times though.

In my unprofessional opinion, this seems to be a clear exploit of the game system to gain an advantage.

**Lorax74** · 05-15-2008, 01:29 PM

The key part is what your intention is.

Jumping to navigate terrain is legitimate. Walls are terrain, train tracks are terrain, boxes are terrain, etc.
Jumping to increase the distance of thrown objects such as grenades, mines, rdx, etc, is legitimate.
Jumping with the intent to avoid fire is NOT legitimate.

Good rule of thumb: If you think it will be against the rules, don't do it and seek clarification from administration.

**daithi1** · 05-15-2008, 03:12 PM

I agree with the server changes thuis far but would like to see a bit more titan.

In relation to dolphin diving in some situation the quickest way to get behind cover (a small fence or wall etc.). For example on Ruin in Belgrade there is a small wall I think dolphin diving there under fire would be ok as in a real world situation (unless you were dead

) you would jump behind that little wall for cover and dolphin diving is the closest thing to that real world dive.

**Lorax74** · 05-15-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by daithi1

I agree with the server changes thuis far but would like to see a bit more titan.

In relation to dolphin diving in some situation the quickest way to get behind cover (a small fence or wall etc.). For example on Ruin in Belgrade there is a small wall I think dolphin diving there under fire would be ok as in a real world situation (unless you were dead

) you would jump behind that little wall for cover and dolphin diving is the closest thing to that real world dive.

That would be navigating the terrain and utilizing cover...

05-14-2008, 12:04 AM	#32 (permalink)
Modkaman Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 79	Re: Wearing your tags, and breaking server rules: I don't think the bunny hopping rule applies to jumping out of the way of the FAV or any vehicle for that matter. I've jumped out of the way of a FAV on more than one occassion but I didn't jump more than once. Bunny hopping is plural and a jump is totally different, however, if the intent is to escape fire then I would consider it bunny hopping, even one time. But me personally, I consider it a legitamate strategy to jump out of the way of a FAV, besides IRL you wouldn't lay down in front of the vehicle and wait for it to pass over you. Your butt would jump out of the way....at least I'd like to think that I would. Which is unlike bunny hopping to avoid fire which I would like to think no American would do IRL. Have you ever watched African militias shoot weapons, they're horrible at it. Come to think of it, bunny hopping could be a legitimate strategy IRL, because if I saw you do it I'd probably laugh so hard I wouldn't be able to fire my weapon straight. __________________ "Instead of shooting where I was, you should have shot at where I was going to be!" Commander Lur, Futurama, Raiders of the Lost Arcade.

05-15-2008, 01:14 AM	#39 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 3,350	Re: Wearing your tags, and breaking server rules: Glad to see a thread like this. Hopefully enough players read this and read the rules for once. __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th Member "...I had my tonsels removed and my breasts enlarged, now I dont need to bother the wife if I want some big nipples in my face. Cha ching!" - Thesleeper01

05-15-2008, 10:21 AM	#41 (permalink)
Razcsak Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 20 Posts: 743	Re: Wearing your tags, and breaking server rules: Yes, I know what you meant. I think its stupid. Going prone is a terrible idea, typically. It turns your center of mass into your head and sets your reticle to as wide as it goes. Now, the way you're jumping and going prone in mid-air is designed to get around that feature deliberately programmed into the game. And yes, I believe that dolphin diving was considered banned at one point. If not, it really should be. __________________ \|TG-3rd\|Razcsak

05-15-2008, 01:29 PM	#43 (permalink)
Lorax74 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Age: 34 Posts: 5,465	Re: Wearing your tags, and breaking server rules: The key part is what your intention is. Jumping to navigate terrain is legitimate. Walls are terrain, train tracks are terrain, boxes are terrain, etc. Jumping to increase the distance of thrown objects such as grenades, mines, rdx, etc, is legitimate. Jumping with the intent to avoid fire is NOT legitimate. Good rule of thumb: If you think it will be against the rules, don't do it and seek clarification from administration. __________________ Ikariam (Alpha) Bayhios [35:70] > Truax (c) - Wine Streardeos [39:70] > New Truax - Marble Meikaios[35:68] > Truax Minor - Crystal .

05-15-2008, 03:12 PM	#44 (permalink)
daithi1 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 875	Re: Wearing your tags, and breaking server rules: I agree with the server changes thuis far but would like to see a bit more titan. In relation to dolphin diving in some situation the quickest way to get behind cover (a small fence or wall etc.). For example on Ruin in Belgrade there is a small wall I think dolphin diving there under fire would be ok as in a real world situation (unless you were dead ) you would jump behind that little wall for cover and dolphin diving is the closest thing to that real world dive. __________________ \|TG-AIR\|Daithi1 * 11th Air Tactical WikiMake Somebody Warm and Fuzzy, Ribbon NominationLost? Try TG Mentoring*

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