Re: The Oracle: Ask Lyra A Question !

**Lyramion** · 01-20-2009, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by pred011586

Out of the 3 support MGs, Bianchi, Shugo, and Ganz. What's the reload time, dmg per shot, shots per second, cooldown time, reload time, time until maximum accuracy while crouching, and maximum/minimum effective range of each?

RPM 900
Magazine 4
Shots per Magazin 150
Reload time 5.3s
Min Deviation 1.18
Deviation while shooting -1.05 -0.0825 -0.01
Deviation while moving 3 0.25 0.1 0.12
Deviation after jumping 7 7 0.09
Deviation Standing 2
Deviation Prone 1.2
Deviation in Zoom 0.8
Zoom Time 0.15s
Zoom Factor 0.59
Min damage 15
Max damage 18
Distance to damage loss 15m
Distanz bis Minimalschaden 60m
Heat per shot 0.025°
Cooling per Second 0.3°ps
Max Heat 1.35°

RPM 900
Magazine 3
Shots per Magazin 200
Reload time 5.4s
Min Deviation 1.15
Deviation while shooting -1 -0.09 -0.009
Deviation while moving 3 0.25 0.1 0.08
Deviation after jump 7 7 0.09
Deviation while standing 2
Deviation while prone 1.2
Deviation while zoomed 0.8
Zoom time 0.15s
Zoom factor 0.59
Min damage 14
Max damage 18
Distance till damagedrop 15m
Distance till min damage 60m
Heat per shot 0.025°
Cooling per second 0.3°ps
Max heat 1.35°

Magazine 4
Shots per Magazin 120
Reload time 5.3s
Max deviation 1.35
Deviation while shooting -0.9 -0.11 -0.01
Deviation while moving 3.5 0.25 0.1 0.08
Deviation after jump 7 7 0.08
Deviation while standing 2
Deviation while prone 1.2
Deviation while zoomed 1.3
Max deviation while zoomed 0.7
Zoom time 0.15s
Zoom Factor 0.59
Min damage 23
Max damage 27
Distance till damagedrop 15m
Distance to min damage 60m
Heat per shot 0.036°
Cooling per second 0.35°ps
Max heat 1.35°

**Unload** · 01-20-2009, 04:49 PM

Ganz > Bianchi > Shuko.

**Spur** · 01-20-2009, 06:13 PM

Could you please explain how deviation works? I see some with 1 some with several, etc.

**Mercenary90** · 01-20-2009, 10:58 PM

How enlightening!
I always thought the Shuko fired faster than the Bianchi.
Regardless, I like the Shuko better than the other two because of its clip size and sound.
What are the Lyra's thoughts on them?

**Lyramion** · 01-21-2009, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Spur

Could you please explain how deviation works? I see some with 1 some with several, etc.

Hmm actually I don´t know. I just pulled the data off bf2142 stats

Originally Posted by Mercenary90

How enlightening!
I always thought the Shuko fired faster than the Bianchi.
Regardless, I like the Shuko better than the other two because of its clip size and sound.
What are the Lyra's thoughts on them?

Phew I used them often back then. But I haven´t used them the last few months. I´d prolly say I did like them about even while I never got warm with the Ganz.

Nowadays I just take a shotgun and throw EMP Grenades at things at range.

**Tigerblitz** · 01-21-2009, 01:44 PM

Oh wise Lyra,

Are there any other seccert nades or rocket spots I might want to know about?

**TC Migs** · 01-21-2009, 10:49 PM

Tell me about ping...the higher the ping, what do you get or what happens? the lower the ping, what happens or doesn't?

**Lyramion** · 01-21-2009, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Tigerblitz

Oh wise Lyra,

Are there any other seccert nades or rocket spots I might want to know about?

Well here is a topic from some time ago:

http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...ol-basics.html

Originally Posted by TC Migs

Tell me about ping...the higher the ping, what do you get or what happens? the lower the ping, what happens or doesn't?

Up to 140 ish ping the game usually will still be smooth. Above 160-220 the game will lag behind and studder a bit often. Also whenever you zoom in you will get a kid of double zoom in animation and your aim will lag behind

The higher your ping is the more shots you make will not count. On the other hand your model might be a bit harder to hit, too. Because the lag prediction has to work harder. The comp teams sometimes complained i was hard to hit.

**Adaxa** · 01-22-2009, 05:16 PM

That was because you wouldn't stop moving.

Oh wise and great Lyra, what are the stats for the Krylov and Scar?

**Lyramion** · 01-22-2009, 07:04 PM

BF2142 stats has them all listed. I somehow feel tho some are wrong hah

It´s in German tho but if you are smart you might find out what it means and learn some German, too!

http://www.2142-stats.de/BF2142+Infos/Waffen/eu.html

http://www.2142-stats.de/BF2142+Infos/Waffen/pac.html

**pred011586** · 01-22-2009, 07:28 PM

Or use www.bf2142-stats.com instead of .de and get the english version (looked it up after lyra said he got the HMG stats from here :3)

http://www.2142-stats.com/BF2142+Info/Weapons/eu.html

http://www.2142-stats.com/BF2142+Info/Weapons/pac.html

**Lyramion** · 01-22-2009, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by pred011586

Or use www.bf2142-stats.com instead of .de and get the english version (looked it up after lyra said he got the HMG stats from here :3)

http://www.2142-stats.com/BF2142+Info/Weapons/eu.html

http://www.2142-stats.com/BF2142+Info/Weapons/pac.html

Oh ya kinda strange when you click on the little languge flags up there the weapon page wont show propperly. tha for fining the english part.

**oniell121** · 01-23-2009, 02:39 AM

Dear all expansive lyra,

To be or not to be?

Actually, What is the pest place to aim on the bad guys? Do I go directly for the smaller head and fight off the recoil, or do I aim for the body, let the recoil push me towards the head and hope my deviation isn't too bad by the time it gets there? I've tried both and the 3rd always seems to kill me anyway, so I thought I'd come directly to the source.

**Lyramion** · 01-23-2009, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by oniell121

Actually, What is the pest place to aim on the bad guys? Do I go directly for the smaller head and fight off the recoil, or do I aim for the body, let the recoil push me towards the head and hope my deviation isn't too bad by the time it gets there? I've tried both and the 3rd always seems to kill me anyway, so I thought I'd come directly to the source.

As I mentioned before. If your target is moving in any way do never aim for the head. The hitboxes in 2142 are just too wonky to make headshots on moving targets worth it. Aim for the body and keep it there.

If your target is standing/crouching/prone still you can go for the head to get it over quick.

The "let the deviation let me travel up to the head" thing is an old lie that is being kept around since ages.

**oniell121** · 01-23-2009, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Lyramion

The "let the deviation let me travel up to the head" thing is an old lie that is being kept around since ages.

I've come to realize that as well. I tried it for a long time and it really never worked. Thanks

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