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Discussion: Battlefield 2142 / Battlefield 2142 - General Discussion - Timezones - Originally Posted by pred011586
While we're at it, are there any other countries outside the
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04-07-2009, 04:31 AM #46
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Many countries, including England, still measure distances in miles rather than kilometers. Also, regardless of what the official statement is on the matter, many people in the UK still describe weights in ounces, pounds and stones, the majority of people still talk in terms of inches and feet instead of centimeters and meters. Personally, it drives me crazy, why on earth we don't all just use the much simpler metric system is beyond me.
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04-07-2009, 07:49 AM #47
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It's a form of patriotism. In a world of increasing globalisation and inter-racial, inter-cultural societies, nations cling on to their sovereignty with every ounce (pun intended) of their strength. This is the main reason, why do the Brits drive on the left? Because they always have and it makes the country different, and all countries like to be different, and all countries want other countries to conform to their beliefs and direction because it makes them feel good. It is ever more difficult to define nationality but these small variations help.
The other reason is likely economic, changing a country's system across the entire board is going to entail some fairly large admin costs, and politicians probably doubt it will raise enough votes to accomodate it.
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04-07-2009, 08:57 AM #48
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Very true. Beneath the "multi-cultural" facade I believe many people are inwardly clinging to their homeland's borders, language & culture. Viva la Republic! Or is it Repubblica? Originally Posted by flik2142
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04-07-2009, 09:39 AM #49
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Saturday's scrim, I honestly didn't know if it was 8pm or 9pm GMT when we should have started.. The clocks have just changed here, but the US have not. UTC is simple, but I can't see the larger part of the community changing to UTC, as it is far to different to their normal local time.
I have no problems either way, I would like to know if I am 4 or 5 hours different at any time of the year, and I just don't know.. Last week we were 4 hours, this week it is 5 I think. I don't know.. How can we easily find out what the servers local time is?
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04-07-2009, 01:07 PM #50
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I use these in the E1st and they work well: Originally Posted by PM07SNV
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
http://wwp.eastern-standard-time.com/
Also xfire is really great, i add events there and they handle the timezone stuff automatically if you are logged in.
www.xfire.com/clans/e1st/events
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04-07-2009, 07:07 PM #51
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Indeed GMT was set at the Prime Meridian, but it was at the International Meridian Conference, requested by the US President, in 1884 that both GMT and the Prime Meridian were internationally agreed upon. Originally Posted by LogicalHarm
"The deciding conference
The Greenwich Meridian was chosen as the Prime Meridian of the World in 1884. Forty-one delegates from 25 nations met in Washington DC for the International Meridian Conference. By the end of the conference, Greenwich had won the prize of Longitude 0º by a vote of 22 to 1 against (San Domingo), with 2 abstentions (France and Brazil).
Why Greenwich?
There were two main reasons for the choice. The first was the fact that the USA had already chosen Greenwich as the basis for its own national time zone system. The second was that in the late 19th century, 72% of the world's commerce depended on sea-charts which used Greenwich as the Prime Meridian.
The decision, essentially, was based on the argument that by naming Greenwich as Longitude 0º, it would be advantageous to the largest number of people. Therefore the Prime Meridian at Greenwich became the centre of world time"
Source: http://www.nmm.ac.uk/explore/astrono...n-at-greenwich
A couple of other sites about it although saying much the same thing:
http://wwp.millennium-dome.com/info/conference.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ian_Conference
As DrProctor said, even though most places are officially metric, imperial units are still used at times in Britain and other places because some people are too used to it and it takes time to entirely switch. Originally Posted by pred011586
Further information: "Every country in the world has adopted the metric system except the United States of America, Liberia and Burma (Myanmar). Even these three countries have adopted metric measures to some degree indirectly through international trade and standardisation...
...Most countries have adopted the metric system officially over a transitional period where both units are used for a set period of time."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication
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04-07-2009, 08:25 PM #52
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With TG's focus on tactical realism and the use of UTC in the military, it would seem that anyone wanting to be "realistic" would want to use UTC for scheduling TG operations.
As to adoption of metric, I see two obstacles:
The conceptual one: You need to use it enough to have a natural feel for how big a deciliter is (cooking), or how different temperatures in Celsius relate to cold, hot, comfortable, freezing, and human body temp (ie. does he have a fever?).
The equipment one: Do you have instruments (beakers, speedometers, thermometers) that measure in metric? Do you have metric tools? (The number of metric cars makes the latter much more common. Most mechanics will have metric sockets now.)
For time, the same issues apply: Do you have a clock that can tell UTC? I'd bet you could download an applet for the Windows tray that will show dual time. Many watches include a 2nd timezone feature so you can set the other timezone to UTC.
Once you have a UTC clock, you just need to get used to what time natural events happen, such as sunrise, sunset, lunchtime, etc. You'll still need your local clock for all those backwards people who schedule in local time, like TV broadcasts and office meetings.Dude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?
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04-07-2009, 08:30 PM #53
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I just googled for windows tray dual time display and found this page with some nifty Windows utilities:
http://www.slipstick.com/calendar/timezone.asp
Here's another good hit with links to several dual-time utilities:
http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-...ime-zones.html
Here's one from MS:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=enDude, seriously, WHAT handkerchief?
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04-08-2009, 04:30 AM #54
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(I had to reformat the URLs because I'm not yet allowed to post them...) Originally Posted by Superfast
...and the biggest advantage of these is that they take in to account the changing time zones (for summer/winter time) on the Eastern Seaboard.I want a semi-automatic grenade launcher for the support role... like the one available in Aliens vs. Predator 2. All those different "warhead" types would be extremely useful.
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Could an admin move this out of the 2142 forum please?
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