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05-17-2009, 04:55 PM #1
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Revisiting Rule 8
I wanted to do this for some time and its come up once again. It seems rule 8 is the most misinturpreted rule: 8) "Squad Leader Beacons may NOT be placed on any roof or area which is not accessible through ordinary means." I want to make sure everyone is on the same page.
The most common myth is nothing is allowed roof access. That is far from the truth. Anyone may freely roam the roof if you landed there from a legit beacon or a dedicated transport. Legit beacons are those that are placed by normal means of transportation. Not Gunships, other beacons or other phyical game exploits like wall glitches.
A second myth is these beacons cannot be destroyed. Thats not true, the only 100% effective counter-measure is your CO. The CO must place the center of the Orbital Strike right over the beacons location. That means you must be in full zoom and have the beacon in the middle of the screen so there is no offset distortion. I confirmed this works 100% of the time and I also use it to counter normal beacons.
The only time you should tell someone to remove themselves fro a roof is when they entered the roof from an exploit like a rooftop beacon. Please confirm the beacon frist! Please let the admin decide to say something if there is one around!
This isn't a rule debate, but if you have questions please feel free to ask if you didn't understand anything.The soldier formerly known as, Eroak.
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05-17-2009, 06:05 PM #2
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Re: Revisiting Rule 8
I have a question: If the beacon is in a place that requires tricky jumping to get to, such as the second story of Ruins on Camp G, or the buildings at Outpost on Berlin, are those off-limits?
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Re: Revisiting Rule 8
You can spawn in one the second story of ruins, I don't use a beacon much but I would like to know if it is okay also. As well as the outpost building, I've used that one as well once or twice before.
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I don't see why those would be off-limits. The rule says "not accessible" not "easy to get to". Hiding your beacon by jump throwing it on top of a crate or some other way is fine (correct me if I'm wrong there).
I do have a question though, what's the ruling on underwater beacons?
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I think in terms of accessibility, if you can get to a certain place on foot as an infantry then you can put down a beacon there. Flik has a "special place" that he places his beacon on Camp G. Although it is incredibly hard to get to, it is still possible.
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Re: Revisiting Rule 8
You pretty much summed it up. If you can get there by spawning or jumping by any nature thats "normal" you may place the beacon there.
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Underwater, wall glitched, and other indestructible beacons that cannot be destroyed by normal means are exploits. Beacons should always be destroyable by normal weapons fire. This might araise a question such as; what if the beacon was thrown on a roof from below and I can shoot it? This is legit. If you were standing next to the beacon, could you destroy it with normal weapons fire? yes. Sometimes you might need to find a place higher or just as high to destroy it.The soldier formerly known as, Eroak.
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Re: Revisiting Rule 8
thanks
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05-17-2009, 10:28 PM #8
Re: Revisiting Rule 8
Why not? Originally Posted by Eroak
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Re: Revisiting Rule 8
Are you questioning the quote itself? If so I said the rule isn't open for public debate. Originally Posted by Zhohar
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Oops.... hey, no water beacons guys!
On top of the various exploded storage crates are allowed though? Okay.
Thank you for clarifying.
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Why whouldn't it be ok? I'm not sure if there is an exploit issue here. Originally Posted by TheDarkPenguin
On top of the various exploded storage crates are allowed though? Okay. Thank you for clarifying.The soldier formerly known as, Eroak.
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Re: Revisiting Rule 8
I know of a couple of places where you can use an exploding crate to put a beacon up higher. Then explode the crate and you can't get to the beacon. Its not the most tactical thing to do as the are not in the best spots.
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Ah I see. Since you used a normal part of the enviroment to reach a place to throw a beacon, then I see this as an legit tactic. Good thinking, I wouldn't have ever thought of that.
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I would have to disagree with this. If an exploding crate was used to launch a beacon to an inaccessible place, we'd have issue with that. Originally Posted by Eroak
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Wouldn't it depend on who exploded the crate? Originally Posted by Lorax74
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