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    What is maturity?

    Tactical Gamer is based upon several principles, but two of the most important are teamwork and maturity. Teamwork should be easy enough, working together to achieve a common goal. Everyone participates in that in game and is the core reason why many of us started playing or continue playing 2142 (as well as many other games). Maturity is a very different matter though, so I thought it might be a good idea for people to share their ideas on what maturity is. After understanding what others think maturity is, I feel the community as a whole can benefit from the insight of its members.

    To get things started I'll provided a dictionary entry and a few of my thoughts.

    Main Entry:
    ma·tu·ri·ty
    1: the quality or state of being mature ; especially : full development
    2: termination of the period that an obligation has to run

    Main Entry:
    ma·tu·re
    1: based on slow careful consideration <a mature judgment>
    2 a (1): having completed natural growth and development : ripe (2): having undergone maturation b: having attained a final or desired state <mature wine> c: having achieved a low but stable growth rate <paper is a mature industry> d: of, relating to, or being an older adult : elderly <airline discounts for mature travelers>
    3 a: of or relating to a condition of full development b: characteristic of or suitable to a mature individual <mature outlook> <a show with mature content>

    While most of the entries are not very applicable to the given context, "based on slow careful consideration" is the most fitting. Making a careful decision seems like a good summary of the dictionary explanation.

    Personally, maturity is more of an ability to make an publicly acceptable decisions in the face of other, less desirable, options. A lot of that comes from undterstanding and experience. I will say that some people are naturally better at understanding other people, whether based on their up bringing or a natural skill from birth. Experience is seemingly just a function of times but I feel that it is also the quality of the events that occurred (ex: two 17 year-old boys are going to feel differently about drinking alcohol if the father of one was an alcoholic and abusive to the family while the other boy has had no bad experience). I have a feeling that a lot of this is going to come to "taking the high road" which can often be the case as a more mature decision is often of a higher moral quality. I also think that being civil and polite is going to come into play often in this discussion.

    So please share and hopefully we all can have a nice chat.
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    Re: What is maturity?

    Maturity is closely tied to self-control, and especially emotional self-control. The ability to feel negative emotions and turn them into positive changes.

    Such as the ability to be confronted with inexperienced and not-very-smart team-mates, feel anger, and in turn use that anger for something constructive -- such as teaching, helping the team, or simply leading by example -- instead of calling people idiots and morons behind their backs.

    Anger is the indication of an unfavourable situation -- an indication that something is wrong. There is nothing wrong with anger.
    What sets us apart, though, is the amount of intellect and consideration we take upon realizing that something is wrong. Animals don't consider the situation for very long: if I kick a dog, it'll cry, and bite back. If I kick a human being, it will control its emotions while examining the situation for the most constructive result.

    It is this ability to control oneself while feeling extreme emotions -- to control oneself while examining the situation and responding in a constructive manner -- that is one of the of the corner stones of maturity.
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    Re: What is maturity?

    I´m by no means mature with my 28 years..... but I can pretend to be for a few hours

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    Re: What is maturity?

    I'd say that maturity is being humble (something i'm working on myself), polite, selfless, respectful, and acting intelligently rather than rashly.

    I don't think maturity can be taught, only learned, and you can't force someone to be mature because that will often just cause them to be even less mature and more spiteful.

    Also, for what its worth, I just wanted to say that I think |TG-AIR|DrBeat and |TG-3rd|Zhohar are two of the most exemplary examples of maturity at TG that I've come to notice.
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    Re: What is maturity?

    Maturity is knowing when to speak out and when to shut up. It boils down to self-discipline and respect.



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    Re: What is maturity?

    I would love to dwell into this interesting thread and express my opinion on maturity and what it is. But I am terrible with words, and will most likely make myself look like an idiot.

    But what the hell, I'll try.


    Maturity, like Zho said, can be tied with self-control. Maturity can be a certain level of thinking, and acting. As well as what you said, accepting decisions in the face of others. How many times have you seen someone act foolishly because their friends were there?

    What gets me also is when people tie maturity with age. Age has nothing to do with maturity. When you're young the only thing that makes you immature is what you learn, and see-...Maybe your age does kinda have an effect on it. What might be mature when you're 6, might not be as mature when you're 14.

    I think I am going to stop while I am ahead, I am not gonna make myself seem more foolish.



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    Re: What is maturity?

    Respect. To show consideration and regard to others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    Also, for what its worth, I just wanted to say that I think |TG-AIR|DrBeat and |TG-3rd|Zhohar are two of the most exemplary examples of maturity at TG that I've come to notice.
    On that, maturity does not necessarily come with age. I am one of the younger members at TG.

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    Re: What is maturity?

    I don't believe respect has to do with maturity. You respect people doesn't mean you wanna goof around and have fun, right?



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    Re: What is maturity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axis_Sniper View Post
    I don't believe respect has to do with maturity. You respect people doesn't mean you wanna goof around and have fun, right?
    Well, I'd say that being mature greatly involves treating others that you may not know with respect. Mutual respect is a foundation of maturity.
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    Re: What is maturity?

    Passing up short term pleasure in favour of long term gain.
    Critically thinking and analysing the beliefs that one holds most dear in the light of cold, hard evidence.
    Standing by what one knows to be right (considering the afforementioned point about critical thinking and analysis), regardless of how politically poor that stance may be.
    Cultivating patience so that anger does not arise in the first place.
    Understanding the realities of the world such that one does not develop selfish and unreasonable expectations that the world should somehow change to suit their needs and desires.
    Accepting the inevitable reality of not only one's own mortality but also the mortality of those one loves.
    Learning that in most instances we are our own worst enemies, that we tend to allow our own fears and short term desires to drive our immediate behaviour.
    Being honest with oneself in all things.

    Those are just some of the things that I consider to be aspects of maturity. The list goes on. I have met one person in my life that I consider to be truly 'mature' but he dedicated his life to it.

    I show relatively few of those traits myself but I strive for as many as I believe that I can achieve.



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    Re: What is maturity?

    I have by myself a very short version of what i think maturity is..
    The ability to step back for a moment and look at the situation you are. Trying to understand the view of everyone involved and your own and look at it in a neutral way to archive the goal most benefiting for everyone even if that means your not the one getting most of it.
    His capacity for love lost, the man accepts it into his glas of dispair. The Flames of burning anger unquenched, the man keeps drinking... but never gets drunk

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    Re: What is maturity?

    Quote Originally Posted by black_Mirror View Post
    I have by myself a very short version of what i think maturity is..
    The ability to step back for a moment and look at the situation you are. Trying to understand the view of everyone involved and your own and look at it in a neutral way to archive the goal most benefiting for everyone even if that means your not the one getting most of it.
    That's called being selfless...



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    Re: What is maturity?

    Quote Originally Posted by LordKelvin View Post
    That's called being selfless...
    And, to be selfless, you must respect others. It does all tie together. I think of maturity as putting away childishness (eh, at least the bad parts of childishness - duck, duck, goose is still good :-). hehe. I just read Lord of the Flies, and could draw many literary parallels concerning maturity from it, but I won't.


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    Re: What is maturity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zhohar View Post
    It is this ability to control oneself while feeling extreme emotions -- to control oneself while examining the situation and responding in a constructive manner -- that is one of the of the corner stones of maturity.
    Controlling oneslf comes by enabling yourself to be introspective, which is only the first step. The second is the actual act of being introspective and what a sign of maturity ("cornerstone") it is.

    Great Post Reaper and well said Zho.

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    Re: What is maturity?

    Realising the teams are stacked to high heavens and switching to even it out..
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