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08-04-2009, 04:59 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
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Originally Posted by Zoraster
Perhaps we should do a restricted unlock night with armor maps for naith. No mms, pilums or other pesky things to stand in the way of complete armor on armor action. Too bad we can't get rid of railguns and keep the tanks. Emps are annoying too, so restrict support emps and co's...
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What will the tank ammo be ?......Nerf Balls and fairies!
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08-04-2009, 05:26 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
Oh no no no. The goal is to make tanks and other armor unstoppable to little infantrymen. So tank ammo stays powerful!
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08-04-2009, 10:54 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
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Judge the actual playtime and not the "amount" in the maplist.
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Without CC logs, all of this is kind of pointless. Any admins want to put this info out there?
I'm not calling you out or disagreeing, it's just kind of pointless to make "gut feeling" arguments about the length of a round when there's easily available data we can reference.
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About your rotation Lyra:
Verdun ends within bearable time because there is bleed.
Minsk has the following odds: a very strong possibility of total obliteration, or a mild possibility of an average armor round. Not good enough.
Shuhia 16 is actually very interesting and fun. I like it.
It's not an awful rotation, and certainly an improvement on the previous one, but it's not something I'd expect from you, and it's certainly not something I'm excited to play.
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08-04-2009, 11:39 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
Gut feelings? Now come on lol
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08-04-2009, 11:40 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
Would it be to complicated to switch rotation on, for example, 2 days of something like what is it at the moment, and 2 days of more infantry style maps ? Is it that hard or complicated to switch the rotation more often ?
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08-05-2009, 08:43 AM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
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Would it be to complicated to switch rotation on, for example, 2 days of something like what is it at the moment, and 2 days of more infantry style maps ? Is it that hard or complicated to switch the rotation more often ?
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If the rotation switched every 2 days most of us wouldn't even get the chance to sample it before it had been switched again - I think a week duration should be just fine (especially since 2-3 days are already replaced with themed nights).
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08-05-2009, 09:10 AM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
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Originally Posted by INSUNABULA
If the rotation switched every 2 days most of us wouldn't even get the chance to sample it before it had been switched again - I think a week duration should be just fine (especially since 2-3 days are already replaced with themed nights).
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yeah every 2 days may be short a little... but weekly would already be better for all of us I think.
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08-05-2009, 10:32 AM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
cheers for the whole understanding thing.  makes me feel really warm and accepted.
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08-05-2009, 11:12 AM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
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cheers for the whole understanding thing.  makes me feel really warm and accepted.
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You accepted?! Hahahahahahah...
You make me hate armor maps >.<
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08-05-2009, 01:35 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
Btw minor note, Lyra, that rotation for next week is the one I proposed.
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08-05-2009, 02:56 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
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Btw minor note, Lyra, that rotation for next week is the one I proposed. 
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Btw minor note, Kelvin, that rotation for next week is the one Specterr proposed.
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Verdun 16
Operation Shingle 32
Belgrade 32
Camp G 32
Cerbere Landing 32
Tunis Harbor 32
Shuhia Taiba/Sidi Power Plant/Suez Canal 32
Fall of Berlin 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKelvin
Verdun 16
Operation Shingle 32
Camp G 32
Belgrade 32
Cerbere Landing 32
Tunis Harbor 32
Shuhia Taiba/Sidi Power Plant/Suez Canal 32
Fall of Berlin 32
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Originally Posted by Lorax74
Next week we'll give this maps list a try:
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maplist.append verdun gpm_cq 16
maplist.append operation_shingle gpm_cq 32
maplist.append belgrade gpm_cq 32
maplist.append camp_gibraltar gpm_cq 32
maplist.append cerbere_landing gpm_cq 32
maplist.append tunis_harbor gpm_cq 32
maplist.append shuhia_taiba gpm_cq 32
maplist.append fall_of_berlin gpm_cq 32
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08-05-2009, 02:59 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
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08-05-2009, 03:44 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
Lol, fine. I stand corrected. And Lyra's pic is epic win. Suez 32 is possibly the worst map EVER. Ok maybe not but I absolutely hate it.
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08-05-2009, 05:33 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
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Without CC logs, all of this is kind of pointless. Any admins want to put this info out there?
I'm not calling you out or disagreeing, it's just kind of pointless to make "gut feeling" arguments about the length of a round when there's easily available data we can reference.
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There is no easily available data to reference. Logs don't indicate map, amount of players, or balance.
However you have the data I gave you in the CaA forum a ways back. I see the game timer almost every day and the perception some of you guys have on maps is a bit off. On average assuming the server is relatively full and the balance was pretty good.
Camp G - ~23-26 minutes(no bleed + spam gameplay = longest)
Shingle - ~20-24 minutes (bleed doesn't come into play too often)
Cerbere, Suez, Minsk - ~18-22 minutes (no bleed - rare that Minsk is even enough to last that long though)
Belgrade, Tunis, Berlin - ~17-21 minutes (lower than the above maps due to bleed on the first two and armor chewing up players on Berlin)
Verdun, Sidi, Shuhia - ~14-18 minutes (bleed effect + 200 tickets = shortest maps)
Margin of error of course but that is about the best I can do in regards to averages.
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08-05-2009, 05:57 PM
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Re: Why isnt it infantry only night?
/b/tard
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