SLs and times that they are lacking.

**Belander** · 10-30-2009, 01:11 AM

Hello fellow TGrs.

So tonight while playing on TG we expierenced a crash and reloaded to the map where we elft off. The 2 min counter counted down and almost a 30 secs into the round there were only 2 squads with 2 and 3 people in them. As no one would SL wether it was insecurity or the regular SLs had not reconnected yet I started a squad. As many may already no I am with out a mic currently due to an incident with my cat chewing the cord in half. Anyways, not long after I was asked if i had a mic yet. "I will not have a mic until next pay day unfortionately." Very politely was told it just isnt goign to work with out proper orders and instructions. They left and made there own squad. Now this was not upseting at all by any means. It is completely understandable and it was conducted in a very polite manner and all is good.

So this brings me to my point. If you happen to be on at one of those random points in time where there is not a SL try not to wait until someone creates one after the round is started. You may not always get a SL with the capabilities to lead or have proper communication skills or ability to communicate (for instance in my case a Mic which can be frustrating) and then leave to make your own. Step on up and give it a shot try new things. The best way to learn and grow is to try it out, learn what you can, and see if it fits.

Can't wait to get a new mic so I can hop back into the drivers seat again!

**Fruvous** · 10-30-2009, 01:13 AM

Agreed. Also don't be afraid to join a few pubbie squads... some of them are really good!

**Housekeeper** · 10-30-2009, 01:22 AM

Yeah and even if you don't have the SL unlocks, on TG server the beacon is so infrequently used anyway that you can really just play & learn SL position without any of those tools to begin with. Make the beacon your next unlock though if you want to be a regular SL because there are times when it is very useful.

Make sure to check out the numerous guides written too, so much good information out there for new and aspiring SL's there is no excuse really as long as you have a mic and don't mind a good challenge. The best way to learn is to just do it though.

TG guide index containing some: http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...ide-index.html

Reminshi · 10-30-2009, 05:44 AM

Yes, you need more SLs or some new ones at least, see the same people stepping up most of the time.

If you want to be SL, make a squad as fast as possible, being the first one to make a squad, usually means it will get filled up aswell. Making it at the last 30 seconds would probably result in people jumping over to the regular SLs.

Abgrund · 10-30-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Reminshi

Yes, you need more SLs or some new ones at least, see the same people stepping up most of the time.

If you want to be SL, make a squad as fast as possible, being the first one to make a squad, usually means it will get filled up aswell. Making it at the last 30 seconds would probably result in people jumping over to the regular SLs.

It won't fill up very quick until you have those |TG| tags on though. If people don't see those they typically won't jump in to join the squad, especially if they are a regular.

It seems like a deliberate action on the regular squad leaders to wait a while before starting their squads. Is there a reason for this?

**Harlequin** · 10-30-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Belander

..whether it was insecurity...

This is the biggest issue in my opinion. A certain level of excellence is expected when a person SL's on a TG server, especially when they are wearing a set of TG tags. Multi-tasking (voice communication, using the SL interface, & fighting) can be a daunting task for a would-be SL. The learning curve is too steep, and when some guy does finally step up and attempt to SL, the poor bastard is bombarded with, "What are we doing?", "So what's the plan?", "What kits do you want?","Are we holding spawn or what?", etc. It can be very intimidating and have seen people quit the SL position because of it.

The (very) few times I've "stepped up" and made a squad or inherited one from an SL that dropped out my 5 or 6 man squad quickly turns into a 1 or 2 man one as people seem to need a constant reassuring voice in their ear, and talking during the game is not one of my strong suits. I could practice SLing with my IHS but unfortunately they are all vampires and are only on when the rest of us daywalkers are getting some sleep.

I've been keeping my eye out in the TGU section for an advanced SL course so I can maybe learn a bit more to help me out, as I hate being one of the guys that sits there waiting to hit the join button while the timer counts down.

**Gorhaut** · 10-30-2009, 09:52 AM

I hereby state that I will make and lead atleast 3 squads every gaming sessions.

Reason I usually don't step up is because a) my game is going wonkers and I crash 4 times in the beginning of each round, b) I have already led several squads which regardless of the result or how nice the squad is do tire me out and my performance drops below acceptable levels, c) There are too many good (subjectively defined as better than me) SL:s that making another squad would do more harm than good due to player population d) I'm drunk, e) in a non-game-related anger mood.

Shane · 10-30-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Belander

Hello fellow TGrs.

So tonight while playing on TG we expierenced a crash and reloaded to the map where we elft off.

LOL if that was GIB think that was my IDS crash srry

Anyway I have no problem SM with people that dont have a mic as long as they can still communicate, it only seems to be a problem when you have many pubbers in your squad and they dont pay attention to the map or there orders. I know most of the time when I dont SL is because my wife is sleeping and if I do I dont use the mic often. And fellow TGer's that know you can still be pretty effective with a mute SL. Other than that "Some days you feel like a nut, some days you dont"

I know your thinking of something smart to say, YOU PERV!

**black_Mirror** · 10-30-2009, 02:12 PM

As one of the few people who Squadlead 80% ( not saying i am good but i enjoy doing it

) of their time i have to say that from day to day i enjoy just leaning back and relax while other people are going to Squadlead for an evening. Squadleader is an enjoyable position but it can frustrate you pretty quick and IMO BF2142 is a completely different game when you Squadlead or Command.
Their are days when i don´t form squads even if no one else is doing it, cause i don´t want to ruin the game for me and burn out

-Str!ker- · 10-30-2009, 03:45 PM

I would squad lead on TG more often, but every time I get a decent sized squad going, it drops to like two people when the game starts so they can join squads led by TG regulars. Makes me sad...

Shane · 10-30-2009, 04:08 PM

I will SM in your squad, as long as you dont make me run assault all the time

**black_Mirror** · 10-30-2009, 04:18 PM

SL tip :
Know your SMs and their preferences. I would never order Shane to come in Assault cause he is just to good with the HMG and the LMG... It would simply be a waste.

SharinganTH1422 · 10-30-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by -Str!ker-

I would squad lead on TG more often, but every time I get a decent sized squad going, it drops to like two people when the game starts so they can join squads led by TG regulars. Makes me sad...

Think of this as an opportunity rather than a hindrance - less people means less responsibility because of less of a negative effect on your team if you mess up and it's far easier to manage 2 or 3 people than 5. Also this helps you to learn about knowing the limits of your squad - don't try to battle it out alone on the frontline with a Zhohar or Reaper squad on the other team, perhaps set up a solid defence or try to stick with an all-TG squad on your team, or even try a recon run and see how you fair.

MrJengles · 10-30-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

LOL if that was GIB think that was my IDS crash srry

Anyway I have no problem SM with people that dont have a mic as long as they can still communicate, it only seems to be a problem when you have many pubbers in your squad and they dont pay attention to the map or there orders.

It was Cerbere.

I've seen SLs be just as effective without a mic, because TG players are so used to particular tactics (hold spawn, hold back and fire rockets / grenades) that they will recognise the appopriate moments, and employ them without being told.

Other times things can get too chaotic to SL without much more specific orders - which was the case on Cerbere I think, we ended up being capped out anyway. But that isn't always the case, and even when it is, sometimes another awesome squad will make up for it. I don't count out any SL, before round start, just because they don't have a mic. Instead I wait to see if the squad's performance has taken a hit.

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Originally Posted by black_Mirror

SL tip :
Know your SMs and their preferences. I would never order Shane to come in Assault cause he is just to good with the HMG and the LMG... It would simply be a waste.

SM tip: remind a SL if you are better suited to a different role.

Deterhek · 10-30-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by -Str!ker-

I would squad lead on TG more often, but every time I get a decent sized squad going, it drops to like two people when the game starts so they can join squads led by TG regulars. Makes me sad...

I used to think this too, but then I got a mic, and also SLed more often, and people began joining my squads more often as well.