Originally Posted by BHack

Watching the videos on various sites, I don't really see what is so arcadey about it. It seems like it would be slightly less so if there is no artillery or bombers to blindside your entire squad. After 4 months or so of not playing BF2, I played it this weekend and found artillery to just generally be a 'bad idea'. The commander should be more of an overview/tactical position and should not be able to really influence a battle directly like that. Not to mention dying from something that you really can't counter is frustrating. So it is good to hear they've removed that aspect from 2142. Then again, i'm sure they've added something equally as poweful such as the orbital strike, or whatever. I just hope it isn't an INSTA DEATH uncounterable 'Frustration strike'.

It sounds like it just disables, etc, which I guess wouldn't be as bad.

There's no artillery, except every f****** vehicle has a weapon with a large enough radius and damage to be considered moving artillery. So you end up dying out of nowhere more than in BF2, except it's coming from vehicles and not the sky.

The EU tank's secondary function is a zoom about twice as powerful as the M24 so you can effectively tank snipe from across the map. I cannot count the times I've been defending a flag with a functioning squad, with UAVs on our position, only to suddenly fall over and die from a EU tank I can't even hear fire. Imagine a tank at Reactor towers in Dalian being able to snipe people at the main entrance with large radius explosive shells. Fun.

If you liked BF2 on TG, I'm telling you, you will enjoy the beta/game for the first 15 hours or so (maybe more when there's more than 1 map), but after that I can't see anyone who likes TG BF2 playing this game. It's fun cause it's new and you don't care about the deaths/random bs because you're trying new weapons/vehicles. Except once that new shiny coat of paint wears off and you're more experienced with the game, unlike BF2, you keep getting blown up randomly and not being able to do anything about it because all vehicles have incredibly powerful weapons (unlike 50 cals in BF2 which are a bitch to kill moving targets with, every vehicle-mounted weapon is as accurate as a tank driver's machinegun in BF2). All vehicles also have Active Defense which is a 5 seconds shield that absorbs every single thing you throw at it. It's like smoke but with a longer recharge. Basically, even if there's 5 ATs at a flag, you can drive straight in, pop active defense and blow them up before they can even damage you. Not to mention AT seems to do half or 2/3rds the damage of AT in vanilla BF2 so taking down a vehicle is really hard.

And that's not even talking about the pods. Interviews say the pods won't be in conquest but still I think the game is just too flawed right now from a TG BF2 player's POV. It'll appeal to a large audience but I don't think that audience isn't the one I played BF2 here with.

And you know me, it's not like I'm a bad player, so these opinions aren't based on someone new to the game or genre dying a lot because he isn't experienced. Did I mention dolphin diving/prone spamming is back to 1.2's in 2142? No delay on proning or weapon firing whatsoever.

It would be a great game, if they slow everything down by a lot.