Spyware: It's in the Game - Page 2

**WhiskeySix** · 10-17-2006, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bommando

The way I see it, they're adding extra network traffic and selling my interests to the highest bidder with no tangible benefit to me. If they were to pass on some kind of incentive for me to appreciate this 'feature' then I would likely change my mind.

good point, that's fair

RegaloDeMuerte · 10-17-2006, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskeySix

Am I the only one who doesn't care about this? Advertisers pay based on their ad's exposure... on the radio/TV neilson ratings determine how many people see/hear and ad and thus how much the Station can charge for the ad.

It's the exact same deal here... If I'm a company that's bought an advert in a game, I need to know that the ad is being seen... not that it's "probably being seen" or "in a good spot on the map, trust us". It makes complete sense that EA needs to know how many cross-hairs linger on an in-game billboard.

You may argue that this is the top of a slippery slope, and that's fine - but this is harmless IMO.... It's not like we have to enter a credit-card number to create a BFx soldier name. Take off the tin-foil hats guys.

It's not so much that it's a slippery slope, but that the proliferation of advertisements has already gone too far in my opinion, and it's worse with no consumer reciprication. I really have no problem with this being in BF2142 specifically, if I recall correctly it was in SWAT 4 and I enjoyed that game, but like Bommando said, we're getting nothing out of this. I put up with ads on my favortie web sites because I know it keeps them free/alive and I'm fine with that. But this game is still going to cost $49.99 whether there's advertisements or not. I'm not worried about ads being beamed into my brain a la Minority Report, but I am worried about the increasing lack of privacy and the already skewed power relationships between corporations and the modern consumer.

/rant off

**Clodhopper** · 10-17-2006, 02:30 PM

You know, they could have offered us a choice to install this spyware. "Once installed, you get a free unlock!" I know a lot of players wouldn't pass that up

Maus · 10-17-2006, 02:34 PM

Oh god, it's true! We're such suckers as a group.

**dawolf** · 10-17-2006, 04:29 PM

And if I repeatedly shoot one specific ad with my gun I wont see that ad again next time I start up the game?

Backlash-7 · 10-17-2006, 05:24 PM

Just want to throw this out there. If you happen to have read this before buying the game then OK, you now have the option not to buy it.

What happens to the folks that downloaded this directly from EA Downloader? Was there a "pop up" warning about the monitoring software or did it just install without giving you the option?

perry · 10-17-2006, 09:29 PM

Info on blocking. They've figured out what ports and IPs to block..

**jmaker** · 10-17-2006, 10:58 PM

So what do we have to do to actually block those ips and ports?

BHack · 10-17-2006, 11:07 PM

in your router you can block it.

sephychan · 10-17-2006, 11:30 PM

And how would that be done for us confused noobs?

ABRA · 10-18-2006, 01:15 AM

Well frist you need a piece of networking hardware between your broadband modem and your actualy machine called a router. Your router manufacturer's site will tell you the IP to type inito your browser to access your router directly. Once in this router management page follow the links on the side to for something that sounds like 'port blocking' or IP blocking. There should be fields in which you can enter in the provided IP and port numbers. Save the configuration. How this helps as I am an only slightly less confused noob.

sephychan · 10-18-2006, 02:23 AM

Thanks bro appreciate the help.

=Sarc= · 10-18-2006, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskeySix

Am I the only one who doesn't care about this? Advertisers pay based on their ad's exposure... on the radio/TV neilson ratings determine how many people see/hear and ad and thus how much the Station can charge for the ad.

It's the exact same deal here... If I'm a company that's bought an advert in a game, I need to know that the ad is being seen... not that it's "probably being seen" or "in a good spot on the map, trust us". It makes complete sense that EA needs to know how many cross-hairs linger on an in-game billboard.

You may argue that this is the top of a slippery slope, and that's fine - but this is harmless IMO.... It's not like we have to enter a credit-card number to create a BFx soldier name. Take off the tin-foil hats guys.

I don't care about the ads either. If EA wants to make more money, they can go ahead. This is capitalism. I didn't care when SWAT 4 included ads. I don't care that BF2142 has ads. I don't care that TG has ads. I didn't care when Opera had ads.

Are we only griping about the fact that EA will be making more money? They'll only be making money if you're playing the game. I'll only be playing the game if it's good.

Vuk · 10-18-2006, 10:13 AM

'Battlefield 2142' Spyware Infested? Posted by Rainier on Monday, October 16 @ 21:13:32 PDT
Battlefield 2142 is starting to show up in stores left and right, and some early birds who managed to get their hands on a retail copy. Inside the box a slip of paper warns people that BF2142 will install monitoring software which reports "anonymous" information, such as IP and surfing habits, back to advertising companies in order to generate in-game ads in line with your possible purchasing interests. The flyer does say if you do not wish this to happen, to not install the game on an internet connected computer, which seems quite silly for a online multiplayer title.

experiment626 · 10-18-2006, 10:17 AM

UM, kind of old news around here, but thanks.

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jmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warren, OH Age: 28 Posts: 2,539	Re: Spyware: It's in the Game So what do we have to do to actually block those ips and ports? __________________

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BHack Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 26 Posts: 1,636	Re: Spyware: It's in the Game in your router you can block it. __________________

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sephychan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: At the moment this california kid is confined in texas, of all the wrong places for one such as me to be.....dang girlfriend. Posts: 9	Re: Spyware: It's in the Game And how would that be done for us confused noobs?

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ABRA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NORTH ATLANTIC (offline) Posts: 584	Re: Spyware: It's in the Game Well frist you need a piece of networking hardware between your broadband modem and your actualy machine called a router. Your router manufacturer's site will tell you the IP to type inito your browser to access your router directly. Once in this router management page follow the links on the side to for something that sounds like 'port blocking' or IP blocking. There should be fields in which you can enter in the provided IP and port numbers. Save the configuration. How this helps as I am an only slightly less confused noob. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: TG ABRA live.xbox.com/member/TG ABRA Friend me!

10-18-2006, 02:23 AM	#27 (permalink)
sephychan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: At the moment this california kid is confined in texas, of all the wrong places for one such as me to be.....dang girlfriend. Posts: 9	Re: Spyware: It's in the Game Thanks bro appreciate the help.

10-18-2006, 10:13 AM	#29 (permalink)
Vuk Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chandler , Az Age: 43 Posts: 31	Spyware Infested BF 2142 'Battlefield 2142' Spyware Infested? Posted by Rainier on Monday, October 16 @ 21:13:32 PDT Battlefield 2142 is starting to show up in stores left and right, and some early birds who managed to get their hands on a retail copy. Inside the box a slip of paper warns people that BF2142 will install monitoring software which reports "anonymous" information, such as IP and surfing habits, back to advertising companies in order to generate in-game ads in line with your possible purchasing interests. The flyer does say if you do not wish this to happen, to not install the game on an internet connected computer, which seems quite silly for a online multiplayer title.

10-18-2006, 10:17 AM	#30 (permalink)
experiment626 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Albuquerque NM Age: 36 Posts: 1,331	Re: Spyware Infested BF 2142 UM, kind of old news around here, but thanks.

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