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Discussion: Battlefield 2142 / Battlefield 2142 - General Discussion - An open petition to modify the kick script - Hey TG, you guys have a great server and I relly enjoy the teamplay, but
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11-18-2006, 09:55 PM #1
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An open petition to modify the kick script
Hey TG, you guys have a great server and I relly enjoy the teamplay, but IMHO the new kick script needs some modification.
I was told that the criterium used is the player with the shortest amount of time on the server gets the kick, but this doesn't play out too well. If you get kicked and rejoin then you get put first in line to get kicked again. This evening I was kicked 4 or 5 times within an hour because of this cycle.
This hurts the play on the server for the kicked obviously, but also tends to tear apart squads and thus hurts teamplay for everyone.
I know there are financial considerations involved and this script may be necessary for the TG servers to exist, but there has to be a better way to implement this functionality.
I've played on some servers that kick on the basis of lowest score, and while that isn't perfect either it at least allows you a fighting chance of staying in the server because it is somewhat of a performance based criterium.
Another idea would be to convert your Titan server to be another 50 man conquest server since gameplay seems to be shifting toward conquest mode now that a lot of players have ranked up enough to get some decent unlocks.
Again, I really enjoy playing here and you guys have worked hard to create a special environment that encourages teamplay, but with the script like it is I don't think I would be interested in paying for a membership because of the aforementioned reasons.
respectfully,
TheSaboteur
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11-18-2006, 10:03 PM #2
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Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
Thanks for your input, TheSaboteur, and welcome to TG! The script should be going after the person that has been on the server the longest. It also attempts to keep two open slots on the server (effectively making the server a 48 person server), which may explain why there are so many kicks.
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11-18-2006, 10:16 PM #3
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Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
I don't know if the server is just super popular or what, but it seems like the 48 out of 50 player count brings people in by droves and the kicks are coming pretty furiously.
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11-18-2006, 10:24 PM #4
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Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
Thanks for your response. I know you guys will get it sorted out!
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11-18-2006, 10:55 PM #5
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Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
I didn't want to say anything since I'm not a supporting member but there are a lot of kicks going on. I don't know why it's different from BF2's reserved slot script but the 2142 server tends to say full. It gives non-members a good chunk of time on the server before being kicked instead of kicking immediately upon joining.
My suggestion is to change the script to kick upon a player's join to keep it at 48/50. That way new players will move on to another server. They'll miss out on TG action but at least it won't give TG a bad name for randomly kicking players mid-game.
I've been hearing random reports from non-members that are new to the TG server. Some are confused at being kicked so often. Others are frustrated from being "picked on". It's mostly just confusion but I don't know what else to say to the player other than it's a kick to make room for a supporting member.
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11-18-2006, 10:59 PM #6
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Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
*caugh*supporting member*caugh*
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11-18-2006, 11:56 PM #7
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Constantly getting kicked for "Supporting Members"
I just got kicked for the 5th time within 2 hours to make room for a supporting member, losing about 100 points in the process.
I was in a squad everytime and noticed when I was being kicked there were always 4-6 unassigned people.
Once or twice I can see, but it's very frustrating to be kicked over and over again.
It won't be a problem for me anymore, as I am removing the TG server from my favorites, but thought you'd like to know that you should kick the unassigned, less productive, or go by who has been in the server the shortest time.
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11-19-2006, 12:22 AM #8
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Re: Constantly getting kicked for "Supporting Members"
TG is run by its SMs so its only fair they get spots on the servers. The new Code is being tweek, but you already knew that since you did a search function before posting....
that sounds like a good idea trooper.
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11-19-2006, 12:32 AM #9
Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
lol. I got kicked today to make room for a supporting member, and it took me about 2 rounds before I could get back in (and was later promptly kicked again for a supporting member).
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11-19-2006, 12:41 AM #10
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Re: Constantly getting kicked for "Supporting Members"
Also note that you will not lose points if you are kicked mid-round.
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11-19-2006, 12:50 AM #11
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Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
I went into teamspeak to complain to the Admins and they told me about the new script and you have to enter your BF2142 PID into the forum profile.
Originally Posted by Acreo Aeneas
The Dirty
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11-19-2006, 12:57 AM #12
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Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
Out of curiosity, what happens if the server is full of supporting members and another one (say the 51th) trys to join?
Who gets kicked?My sanity is not in question...
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11-19-2006, 01:23 AM #13
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Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
Nothing. The 51st player would not be able to even attempt to join.
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FROM THE TACTICAL GAMER PRIMER.
3) Support game play in a near-simulation environment. Where the focus of play would not be solely on doing what it takes to win, but doing so utilizing real-world combat strategy and tactics rather than leveraging exploits provided to players by the design of the game engine.
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11-19-2006, 01:26 AM #14
Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
Acreo Aeneas
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11-19-2006, 02:04 AM #15
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Re: An open petition to modify the kick script
I think I understands the problem, the server will show up as 48/50 which means it has an open slot which makes people join, so a lot of people will join
and trigger a lot of kicks.
Would it be possible to change the script to either
Only allow new people when 48 if the new player is a supporting member and when at the supporting member is in game making the player count 49 it will kick a non supporting player.
Or
Could we some change the script to be a little more picky when kicking? Not sure if this would help and we need to figure out how to balance allowing new people to be able to join and not splitting up squads.
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