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Old 11-29-2006, 11:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Why do gunships suck so much?

Mabey I'm just terrible, but I find it very hard to do any damage with these things. Their main missle is weak, and you dont get that many. I find that even if I hit with 6 out of 8 missles I still cant blow tanks up, and infantry can take more than one hit from a missle. They are pretty easy to shoot down and getting emp'd just seems like an unfair 1 shot kill most of the time. They are only decent if you have a gunner and are then only effective against infantry, who usually have the tools to take care of you anyways. It seems like Dice has nerfed the helicopter vehicle to the point of being completely useless.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Re: Why do gunships suck so much?

It's still useful to some extent, but you have to be good at it and have a gunner that's good as well. It's not like in BF2 when any 2 noobs could jump into a chopper and farm kills.

I noticed the game play is maturing as people are figuring out how to use the weapons to best advantage. I just started figuring out the assault rockets and it looks like everyone else is as well.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Re: Why do gunships suck so much?

actually the gunship is very good vs infranty and armor, the thing is you MUST have a gunner your anti air missles that you get while driving wont do anything to armor but the tv missles the gunner gets is 1 shot kill on any armor if you hit
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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actually the gunship is very good vs infranty and armor, the thing is you MUST have a gunner your anti air missles that you get while driving wont do anything to armor but the tv missles the gunner gets is 1 shot kill on any armor if you hit
That TV missile is hard to use.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Re: Why do gunships suck so much?

I think they did a good job of balancing the aircraft in BF 2142 and not make it overpowering as compared to the other BF games. Additionally they are easier to fly for the beginner but not dumded down for those with more flying skills.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Re: Why do gunships suck so much?

Reminds me a lot of the Republic gunship from Starwars Battlefront...not that I was ever any good at piloting that thing either.

I miss the good ole days of the Helo without the added gribbliness of it behaving like a Harrier jet.

On the other hand, I'm sure I'll get used to it as soon as I can pilot it more than 4 or 5 times during a round (dang things take too long to respawn).
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actually the gunship is very good vs infranty and armor, the thing is you MUST have a gunner your anti air missles that you get while driving wont do anything to armor but the tv missles the gunner gets is 1 shot kill on any armor if you hit
Totally agree man. In one game (Minsk), me and FlooDy flew the bird. I was his gunner and we absolutely hold the entire PAC army at bay. The pilot just flyby on flags with me doing the straffing. We bagged around 20 kills with no casualties.

I find out that the gunship is great at killing tank in close range. Capable pilot can pop up close and personal so his gunner can score a direct hit. The TV is useless if fired more than 200 meters away. Yeah, and the MANPAD rocket is really our bane, we stop flying after getting shot down by the MANPAD 'coz it not worth dying without doing any real damage.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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I think they did a good job of balancing the aircraft in BF 2142 and not make it overpowering as compared to the other BF games. Additionally they are easier to fly for the beginner but not dumded down for those with more flying skills.
I really think that the 1 hit 1 kill emp strikes really put the gunship far below walkers and even tanks. When you are in a tank and get hit by the emp you'll probably take a few hits but its very likely that you will make it out in one piece. In a gunship its practically instakill. Its just too frustrating to be flying around and just get shot out of the sky without any warning. Everything else I think would be fine if emps werent so devastating to gunships.
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What exactly fires the emps?
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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What exactly fires the emps?
The fixed AA guns for one....
Left click = gun
right click = guided EMP missile

The APCs have the EMP (unguided) as a right click in the drivers seat. I always take shots at low flying aircraft.

I think that's all.. (commanders EMP strike and supports EMP nades too I guess)
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Re: Why do gunships suck so much?

EMP certainly isn't one shot one kill. I hit gunships with those things all the time. If they are flying high enough you get power before hitting the ground. You get tone when the AA guns lock in as well. I man those guns all the time, and though I know I'm a nussance I hardly evver get a kill. Most pilots have lots of time to eject if they are heading for the ground as well.
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Most pilots have lots of time to eject if they are heading for the ground as well.
Ya what I meant was that your gunship is getting killed. If you wanna chopper whore its easier to go down with your ship and just respawn with it.
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I think that's all..
Walker's AA gunner station has guided EMP missiles as a secondary weapon, too. Works just like the stationary AA gun. Except the fact that when walker moves around, it's very hard to keep the lock on. You need to talk to your driver.
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Walker's AA gunner station has guided EMP missiles as a secondary weapon, too. Works just like the stationary AA gun. Except the fact that when walker moves around, it's very hard to keep the lock on. You need to talk to your driver.
That's right. Hold steady to give your gunner a shot.

I have found air power to be a non threat in this game. Those TV missiles are just too touchy to be effective. When I'm in armor I never worry about the air assets. yet...
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Old 11-30-2006, 09:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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The gunship is EXTREMELY useful!......for getting to the other side of the map
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