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  1. 02-22-2007, 03:30 PM #1
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    Question PoE2142?

    Jep gave me the idea while he, IronClaw/Sparkle, and myself were getting the 1.2 patch dl'd and installed yesterday (actually I was horsing around on another server) over TS and complaining about various parts of the game.

    We were talking about ranked servers and the necessity and other things.

    And it kind of hit: if we have a PoE2142 mod and its done RIGHT, we won't NEED to have a ranked server (which we wouldn't be able to run b/c its a mod) and the hassle that comes with it, and we won't need rank-based unlocks, all the customizations will be right there ANYWAYS. And it wouldn't be such a munitions-fest there.

    So, with all the griping about how this game is turning into UT2142, etc., etc., what's the likely-hood of our modding brethren here putting their heads together and coming up with PoE for 2142 in futuristic 2142 flavor but with the BF2's PoE hardcore tactical difficulty, etc.?
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  2. 02-22-2007, 03:33 PM #2
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    Re: PoE2142?

    id be happy to help but i have no modding experience. I think id be a cool idea.



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  3. 02-22-2007, 03:38 PM #3
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    Re: PoE2142?

    I'm just bringing up the idea. As I essentially told jep when we began seeding the conquest server after it got the 1.2 patch, code and me don't get along.

    I'm an electrical engineer who works better with hardware than with software as far as development goes.

    I get along with software and can do basic script coding and such, but anything advanced like this sophisticated mods is way beyond my ken.
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  4. 02-22-2007, 03:48 PM #4
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    Re: PoE2142?

    PoE2142 will never happen.

    If we were serious about getting the gameplay right, we would just make all of our servers unranked and then be able to make spawn times higher (20-25 seconds), ticket counts higher, bleed on every single map, etc.



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  5. 02-22-2007, 04:12 PM #5
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    Re: PoE2142?

    I think it will be atleast a year before something like PoE comes to 2142. Most bf2 mods are still being upgraded, and highly supported, and the mod teams arnt going to abandon support. However, i think it has a good chance of happening, only thing preventing it that i can see is dice making another bf game with a new engine relitivly soon. If that happens, modders will just bypass 2142 and go to the new game.
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  6. 02-22-2007, 04:23 PM #6
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    Re: PoE2142?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tempus View Post
    PoE2142 will never happen.

    If we were serious about getting the gameplay right, we would just make all of our servers unranked and then be able to make spawn times higher (20-25 seconds), ticket counts higher, bleed on every single map, etc.
    Just b/c we haven't gotten serious yet doesn't mean it'll never happen, Tempus.

    Sometimes it takes a wake-up call.

    Well, here's the wake-up call!

    We did PoE for BF2, so what's stopping us from doing it to BF2142? Nothing as far as I'm concerned.

    2142 has ALOT more to offer, especially in terms of the graphics and gameplay. Sure it feels arcade-ish right now, but we're keeping that currently simply b/c alot of us are simply having fun with it and enjoying getting to play with all the toys we unlock and getting good with them. EA intended to stretch out the playability of this game and we're trying to max that out before doing anything.

    So, while we're now stretching out to finish up the unlocks, lets start looking ahead and get this project rolling. Get the modders talking, coming up with goals they want the mod to meet; get the players talking more, not just griping about what's wrong, but what they'd like to see in a more tactical 2142 as opposed to the now more arcade-ish 2142.

    Let's get this rolling people. From what I can tell, the last week or two has really shown us that the current changes will not be for the better as far as TG goes. Game-wise 2142 is a superior game, but the way its now being implemented is NOT in accordance with how we like to play. But we can make it that way if we'd get up off our rears and get the intentional discussions and work going.
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    Re: PoE2142?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Brass View Post
    ...with the BF2's PoE hardcore tactical difficulty, etc.?
    You're way overestimating PoE2's learning curve... think of it as BF2 with different weapons, new maps, and arty/scan/UAV removed



    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Brass View Post

    We did PoE for BF2, so what's stopping us from doing it to BF2142? Nothing as far as I'm concerned.
    Except that "we" didn't "do" PoE... They did.



    I agree with the spirit of you're post though!!

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  8. 02-22-2007, 04:51 PM #8
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    Re: PoE2142?

    That would be great if the POE folks could make a POE2142. They did such a fantastic job with POE I could only imagine how well the 2142 would turn out.
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  9. 02-22-2007, 05:38 PM #9
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    Re: PoE2142?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatKidDeath View Post
    That would be great if the POE folks could make a POE2142. They did such a fantastic job with POE I could only imagine how well the 2142 would turn out.
    I agree, I think its a pretty good idea. I just recently downlaoded PoE2 so ive only been playing for a day or two, but my experience with the boys have been fantastic. I say we give it a shot. If we fail, atleast we can say that we tried.

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    Re: PoE2142?

    Not to discourage you guys, but are you aware of how much work goes into a mod like PoE2? It takes a ton of dedication, many programmers, graphic designers, mappers, and testers. IF you get all that together, then you may be able to have something out in 12-24 months.



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    Re: PoE2142?

    Your not going to see many mods for 2142 due to the lack of support EA has given and the lack of interest from the BF community themselves as only a few mods(PR and POE) have been able to muster a player population that produces games every night. You'll find 10,000 people lobbying grenades back and forth on Karkand(or in 2142's case Gibraltar) every night but mods are lucky to reach even 10% of that number in their up swings. Its a sad state of affairs mostly brought on by the ranking system and you'll see these sentiments stated often by the devs often on various forums. Devs are surely not going to make the mistake of creating a ton of work that won't see much play a second time....especially when the installed base of 2142 is quite a bit less than that of BF2.
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  12. 02-23-2007, 11:29 PM #12
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    Re: PoE2142?

    Well is no POE but if you are looking for something different and like starwars check out www.Firststrikemod.com alot of work is been put into it and we got bronze MOTY that's 3rd out of 4000.
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  13. 02-24-2007, 01:19 AM #13
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    Re: PoE2142?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoyi View Post
    Well is no POE but if you are looking for something different and like starwars check out www.Firststrikemod.com alot of work is been put into it and we got bronze MOTY that's 3rd out of 4000.
    Was that a shameless plug I just read?

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    Re: PoE2142?

    first strike looks like a good mod if you want to keep the arcadish style. What i think people are looking for is one that makes it more "real" with the future setting
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  15. 02-24-2007, 01:53 AM #15
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    Whats poe stand for? =D
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