Zoraster

Squad Leader Beacons may NOT be placed on any roof or area where other players can not gain access through ordinary means such as climbing stairs/ladders, podding via APC (if the map has one), or podding in via transport (if the map has one).

To state it another way: if the only way you can get to a place is by squad leader beacon or gunship, you may not place a beacon there.


The admin team has decided this is a necessary measure. This is a new rule, and it is effective immediately.

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Bommando

There goes my entire Gibraltar strategy.

Screw you guys.

Acreo Aeneas

A Las! Yay, no more rooftop camping!

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Zoraster

Well, I should note that this isn't actually a ban on being on rooftops. While it's certainly an effort to contain it, the rule only affects beacons placed ON the roof.

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Zoopy_T

I wonder how many people will notice this thread among the stickies (considering how no one reads the "READ BEFORE YOU POST" thread). Can we also add that you cannot spin more than 10m?

DLBlue

Finally a ruling about it. Now, about enforcing it?

'ADMIN: REPORTING XXX FOR ROOFTOP BEACON'?

And will it be on the MOTD on load up?

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Zoraster

the MOTD is pretty full right now, so I think probably not.

Anyway, yes. That'd be the way to report one, but please make absolutely sure that the beacon is actually on the roof and not well hidden on the ground. Also, make sure that it's somewhere not accessible by APC pods if there's an APC on the map.

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DLBlue

Oh sadness, alrighty then.

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Augustus Gloop

This may be splitting hairs, but how about placing it on those little door overhangs? It's not actually possible to get on them, but it is certainly easy to destroy the beacon by backing up a yard and shooting it.

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Anospa

Oh sweet Jesus yes!

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DLBlue

Good question. I think that should be allowed though, because you can place the beacon on a lot of places that are just above head height and unable to walk on top of, and still be able to shoot at it.

Perhaps a rule that if you cant step on the beacon(by natural means, APC, Trans, etc) you cant place it there?

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Lorax74

If I am reading this right, this does nothing to actually stop rooftop spawing/camping, it only makes it easier to remove the people doing it and prevents them from getting back up there effortlessly.

Squad leaders can still drop a beacon next to a wall, go off and get themselves killed (aka suicide), pod spin to the roof top, kill the beacon, and then have squad members spawn directly on them. Like I said, it doesn't stop it, but it makes it easier to get them down.

The first post says that the only time you may NOT place a beacon is when it takes a gunship or beacon to get there. If you can toss a beacon up on a ledge or overhang, it does not take a beacon or gunship to get there.

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Arithea

So, just for my clearer understanding: if you have a squad beacon on the ground in such a place that you sometimes will spawn onto a rooftop, that's okay. But if you place the beacon itself on the rooftop, that's not okay.

Is that right?

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DLBlue

Arithea, yes.

I would like Augustus Gloop's point clarified though. Are we dissallowing beacons on positions you cannot physically walk on without using a beacon to get to (or a gunship for that matter)?

That would rule out some bins that lay around the map, some small roofs as well (depending on the map of course).

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Zoraster

Yeah. There's no problem with "throwing" a beacon on top of something. We're not going to nitpick those types of things.

This is correct although I should say that one of the reasons that this came up at all was the general admin team's feeling that entire squads staying up on rooftops has been generally abused in the past month or two. I think the community in general and the admins particularly frown on a large usage of inaccessible rooftops like we've seen of late. This rule shouldn't be read as suggesting or signing off on the quote above. Quite the opposite, it should be an indication that we're trying to move our server away from this without being overly restrictive. However, at this time we are only banning it if the beacon is in an inaccessible area.

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