Exploding_Silver

There is a secret tactic that squad leaders like myself use without telling their squad members, that's deliberatly sacrificing their lives for tactical positioning.

I estimate that this tactic is an unspoken secret of experienced squad leaders

I don't tell them I'm doing this, I do this by positioning them when they spawn in and what kit they have.

I don't say on VOIP "Lorax, spawn in engineer and take on that APC and tank and walker to distract them, so that I can cloak and get behind the wall over there and maintain the attacking spawning position, You will die but hey so what !" This is not going to get a favorable quick obedience to my plan.

Without the verbal communication, I have to use non-verbal methods which is almost entirely where they spawn and what as, then the situation determines there behaviour (eg an engineer will take on the walker), and its there behaviour that is the distraction to the enemy that I want.

Of course sacrificing squad members is tickets in the game and the tactical advantage has to be good for that.

Another example, the distaction tactic
As PAC busting out of berlin home base. Imagine you are taking the southern alleyway, you have cleared the corner that is directly south of the capable flag, the enemy walker is at the capable flag 20m away. Further imagine the situation is half my squad are down (about to respawn) I run for the ladder to get through to the rest of the map past the chock point, as I run I am getting my guys to spawn in as engineers in the open on the way to the ladder. This is where I am betting that the engineers will fire at the walker and the walker will prioritise them for targeting, if so I can get to the ladder. This example is an imaginary situation where sacrificing tickets for tactical positioning of the squad leader is a ploy to save more tickets in the overall positioning of the battle. This is just an example to get the concept accross. In a slightly different situation, I may well a completely different call.

Another example, the human shield
Again berlin, you are PAC and have the EU down to their last flag but they are ahead on tickets, its cap them out or loss. You are the recon squad leader are all of your squad went down fast and are so going to respawn pretty much together. You recon it to their flag and just lie completely still, your squad spawn in. Thats 6 targets there for the enemy, the enemy are most likely to take on the ones they can see they are moving and shooting back. Its heavy action and your squad gets wiped in 8 secs, but they were capping and 2 secs latter they are spawning in again and capping. So in this example I am putting my squad in a situation of quick death to win the round.

Discuss

afterthought,
this tactic is part of a level of thinking that squad leaders should be in, a level that is half way to commander, like a mini commander that is running around as a spawn point and considering postioning of your squad and whos got what flags and which flags do we want to win or loose for the best position to win the game (ie setting up kill zones). Thinking on this level means having great situational awareness and in pratice that means a hands off from personaly killing enemies, because that tunnel focus to kill is time that is better spent on situational awareness

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pred011586

Last night we were playing Minsk and I pulled a similar tactic.

We were PAC and my squad filled up. But I wasn't at all subtle about it:

"Ok guys, I'm spawning recon, I want you all either assault or engies. We're going to spawn north side, rushing straight at Front Line. I'm going to cloak in, you're my distraction."

Worked like a charm. I cloaked diagnonally across the middle, going under the bridge, because my squad was on the north side, all the enemy armor was looking north, when i crossed to the building from the south. Since my entire squad died, I had them spawn on me and we capped the flag in seconds. I immediately told them to defend to again further distract the armor, while I took the nearby EU FAV and drove all the way to Monument and had them again spawn on me.

I've found tactics like this work really well when you have a squad that listens. Telling them that they're job is to distract an enemy I've found is more beneficial than trying to sneak it out of them. When they're trying to distract, they decide against that low percentage Pilum shot that MIGHT nick the back of the tank, and instead go for the full on shot to ensure a hit, and attract attention away from where me attempting to cloak past them.

Another time, on Berlin, I told my squad to rush Crossroads at the start and to draw as much attention to themselves as possible (mass nades/RDX/random shooting). As they all rushed to there, I was able to cloak past the EU team straight up the middle since their attention was on the flag, and get to Roadblock. My squad died, spawned on me, Roadblock capped nearly instantly. Ironically, immediately after, we repeated the maneuver on Square/Outpost. Matched ended in a Cap out.

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Augustus Gloop

I actually ask my squad to put their bodies between me and the bullets. I ask nicely though.

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westyfield

I second that.

I always enjoy watching distraction tactics go wrong (unless they're mine). The best ones are where a squad member throws an EMP 'nade at a vehicle, disabling it... and exposing the cloaked squad leader who was trying to place some RDX on the vehicle!

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Augustus Gloop

I'm going to go ahead and say that's about the worst idea for a squad leader short of going on a total knifing binge.

I'm pretty against beacons as they give the clearest indication of where you are of any of the radar options in the game. At least preserve the fiction that you're looking out for your squad!

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westyfield

I don't do that, if that's what you meant. I rarely go SL as I only just got back into 2142, I was just saying that it's funny to see that happen.

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Lorax74

I often send my squad in one direction while I go in another. One of my favorite things to do on maps like Berlin is cloak up to a certain position (behind cover), have my squad spawn in and move on a flag or attempt to eradicate defenders while I cloak to the next position on my way to a flag behind enemy lines. As my squad members die off, I either have them hold spawn until I'm on a flag or near cover or spawn on me directly to create another distraction. This doesn't always work (getting EMPed usually puts a damper on this pretty quickly), but when it can be pulled off it can really break things wide open.

If this fails too many times in a row, it would be wise to rethink your approach, it might be time to go for that front flag you've been trying to get around.

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Azura

A lot of people may notice I send one man out often, usually out of revive range, to set up in an obvious spot. Basically, to create the kill-zone. Chances are he'll get killed, but I try my luck he'll either hide or run away. Allowing the enemy squad, to either move to clear him out, or chase him. Leaving them wide open for my squad to descend upon them. I find it works better, when a squad puts half it's strength on a flag, and the other off it to revive/cover. So much for back up.

Tunis Harbor - Power Station for Example:
Purple: One Disciplined Squad Member!



As you can see, black boxes are buildings, gray is a crate you can enter, and red are those boiler things on either of the flag, with an orange marker indicating the flag

My Squad sets up on the W. Building and the S. Building
The Enemy is moving down the road via Red Arrow, doesn't matter which way they take
My Squad is hiding, the enemy moves in quickly
My Purple Suicider begins firing as they cross the Blue Line, on my command
Those Red Half Arrows, which point at my purple man, begin firing at him
The Rest of the squad, emerges, effectively bringing destruction down upon them

.... And if there is time later, just maybe we'll be able revive the suicide guy. Hell if he lives, he's a hero!

There are risks, they could easily ascend the W. Building, creating a 6 on 2 CQC. Though with three members to the South, we can still fight back.

The enemy squad can go through the crates, killing off my purple man instantly, but then they are funneling through, still creating perfect targets.

Sadly, they can just push past the fire and still enter a mediocre kill-zone, but the table is a little more even. Especially with commander spotting, we aren't going to be able to do much.

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Uranium - 235

The biggest reason I think such tactics may not be as effective as they could be is that with rockets, nuclear grenades, HMGs, and what-have-you's, 2142 is an EXTREMELY lethal game. Staying alive to create a visible distraction is a lot harder in 2142 than it was in BF2, to say the least

Superfast

Getting away from the sl's position and attacking seems normal too me. Sure you can die, but that's how we advance in the field. With diversions, battlefield-awareness and flanking-manveurs. It's all described with illustrations and all 2142 maps in the E1st manual available for purchase from amazon soon at the nifty price of $9.95.

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Exploding_Silver

you got the price wrong, its $900.95

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jonathanshifty

as in "guys im getting shot plz get in front of me" like that?
or say a nade lands on you, " Lie DOWN on thAT GRENADE NOW"

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Kaboodles

Would jumping on the grenade really protect your squadmates in this game? I haven't tried it, for obvious reasons.

Sir-Nerd

I don't think so.

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