2142 squad leading basics - Page 2

MrMojay · 05-03-2008, 07:11 PM

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They need to know when they are doing things right, not just when they are doing things wrong

I thought this was worth a quote.....for us new folk!

**Foxtrot6** · 05-06-2008, 11:12 AM

Thank you, thank you Sc1ence.
Timusafa - great point on "name of flag." Also, it should prevent complaining that it's too boring in the rear.

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Originally Posted by timusafa

Awesome overview. After reading this I'll try to be in line for your next course. I especially thought it valuable that you brought up squad naming:

d. Specialty squad name should reflect purpose

viii. “Name of flag” (Church on Verdun, Statue on Belgrade etc)

I find this extremely helpful when playing as SL, which I frequently do. If all squads assigned themselves CPs on the map and stuck with them it'd be awesome teamwork. Unique squad naming also helps out other SLs because it's a mode of communication and coordination that doesn't require VOIP.

Well Done!

**Uranium - 235** · 05-06-2008, 03:56 PM

I think naming yourself after a flag is great but situational. You just simply can't do it all the time, and it really depends on defensibility vs. viability as a target for the enemies. A squad named "Toll Station" would be expected to be the squad that defends TS while Harbor is still being fought, or a squad named Reactor would be holed up in there on Sidi.

Alternatively you can be more flexible. Name yourself "Titan Assault", or simply "Defense".

**JRiop1** · 05-08-2008, 02:01 AM

Awesome guide. After being pushed into the SL position a few times, I can definitely tell where I could use some improvement. Great work.

**YdoUwant2know** · 05-08-2008, 08:46 PM

Very well done. This makes me rethink a lot of my squad leading habits. Great job!

**Capt.Scarlet** · 05-25-2008, 12:28 PM

class post sc1ence

**Thesleeper01** · 05-25-2008, 01:18 PM

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d. NS beacon.
i. Not sure how this thing works.

It lets you spawn in faster when your truely dead like from a rail gun. though I dont remeber the differance it makes time wise.

**Lorax74** · 05-25-2008, 11:04 PM

5 seconds faster, which is a lot of time when you're down and staring at the map screen.

Kaboodles · 05-26-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorax74

5 seconds faster, which is a lot of time when you're down and staring at the map screen.

I've heard it also kills you faster when you're only critically wounded. That was enough to make me wary of it to avoid unlocking.

sights · 05-26-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaboodles

I've heard it also kills you faster when you're only critically wounded. That was enough to make me wary of it to avoid unlocking.

#1 it is passive.
#2 it ONLY decreases killed time (from a rorsch, explosive barrels xD, pillum etc.) for about 5-6 seconds...

**ionpig-A** · 05-26-2008, 02:12 PM

This should be a sticky!^^^^^^^^^^

Looks like Eroak already got it into the guides list... I'm slow.

Nice job Sc1ence.

MisticX · 05-26-2008, 02:29 PM

i'd add to what science has so perfectly resumed

squad leaders should know theyr own personality
if you know you play very well in defensive positions, forget trying to assault

or, if you know that your strength is air-air or air-ground combat, then your squad will have to suffer.

i played a lot as CO or SL (say 20% CO, 75% SL) and honestly without setting goals you wont be able to do a decent killing. (after all the game is about you killing more then you get killed + defending at least one flag)

furthermore, knowing what your SQ members do good, aka x is a good reviver, y is a good sniper ... will be very useful in the planning stage, do it throughly, because during gameplay you'll very rare get the chance to do it.

**pred011586** · 05-26-2008, 06:03 PM

Mistic, although it is a good idea to play to your strengths as a SL, you also have to keep in mind the strengths of your SMs, there are more SMs in a squad than SLs. However playing to your strengths as a SL gives your squad a personality. If you keep it up, everyone will know what to expect of your squad and be more, or less, willing to join and help your cause.

Anyone who's been in any of my squads on Belgrade, or Berlin, should know my general strategies for both offense and defense. When I make a squad on Belgrade, I expect my squad to know exactly what I'm looking for (granted the Squad name KINDA gives it away).

Also, a note on the NS beacon. I don't know if this would be allowed on TG or not, but there's a trick i learned with it. *removed*

Kaboodles · 05-26-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sights

#1 it is passive.
#2 it ONLY decreases killed time (from a rorsch, explosive barrels xD, pillum etc.) for about 5-6 seconds...

I guess now I know what to unlock next.

sc1ence · 05-26-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pred011586

I don't know if this would be allowed on TG or not, but there's a trick i learned with it.

This would be considered "gaming the game" and generally frowned upon. Lets refrain from discussing potential exploits here.

If I had a mantra about squadleading it would be knowledge is power. Knowing squad member strengths is ideal. In a pinch you can judge the effectiveness of your squad in the first 4 mins of a round. I often will adjust the goals of my squad based on their initial performance in a round. Especially if I don't know the members well.

05-06-2008, 03:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
Uranium - 235 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mountain Home AFB, ID Posts: 862	Re: 2142 squad leading basics I think naming yourself after a flag is great but situational. You just simply can't do it all the time, and it really depends on defensibility vs. viability as a target for the enemies. A squad named "Toll Station" would be expected to be the squad that defends TS while Harbor is still being fought, or a squad named Reactor would be holed up in there on Sidi. Alternatively you can be more flexible. Name yourself "Titan Assault", or simply "Defense". __________________

05-08-2008, 02:01 AM	#19 (permalink)
JRiop1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: West Boylston, MA Posts: 29	Re: 2142 squad leading basics Awesome guide. After being pushed into the SL position a few times, I can definitely tell where I could use some improvement. Great work.

05-08-2008, 08:46 PM	#20 (permalink)
YdoUwant2know Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 325	Re: 2142 squad leading basics Very well done. This makes me rethink a lot of my squad leading habits. Great job!

05-25-2008, 12:28 PM	#21 (permalink)
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05-25-2008, 11:04 PM	#23 (permalink)
Lorax74 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Age: 34 Posts: 6,398	Re: 2142 squad leading basics 5 seconds faster, which is a lot of time when you're down and staring at the map screen. __________________ TG-9th Lorax74 Get on TeamSpeak!

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ionpig-A Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Indiana Age: 37 Posts: 806	Re: 2142 squad leading basics This should be a sticky!^^^^^^^^^^ Looks like Eroak already got it into the guides list... I'm slow. Nice job Sc1ence. __________________ \|TG-8th Mercs\| * New to TG? Start here * Become a Supporting Member Memor Depopulor Pro Vos Exuro ***** Last edited by ionpig-A; 05-26-2008 at 02:13 PM. Reason: I'm slow

05-26-2008, 02:29 PM	#27 (permalink)
MisticX Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 34	Re: 2142 squad leading basics i'd add to what science has so perfectly resumed squad leaders should know theyr own personality if you know you play very well in defensive positions, forget trying to assault or, if you know that your strength is air-air or air-ground combat, then your squad will have to suffer. i played a lot as CO or SL (say 20% CO, 75% SL) and honestly without setting goals you wont be able to do a decent killing. (after all the game is about you killing more then you get killed + defending at least one flag) furthermore, knowing what your SQ members do good, aka x is a good reviver, y is a good sniper ... will be very useful in the planning stage, do it throughly, because during gameplay you'll very rare get the chance to do it.

05-26-2008, 06:03 PM	#28 (permalink)
pred011586 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lowell/Medford, MA Age: 22 Posts: 205	Re: 2142 squad leading basics Mistic, although it is a good idea to play to your strengths as a SL, you also have to keep in mind the strengths of your SMs, there are more SMs in a squad than SLs. However playing to your strengths as a SL gives your squad a personality. If you keep it up, everyone will know what to expect of your squad and be more, or less, willing to join and help your cause. Anyone who's been in any of my squads on Belgrade, or Berlin, should know my general strategies for both offense and defense. When I make a squad on Belgrade, I expect my squad to know exactly what I'm looking for (granted the Squad name KINDA gives it away). Also, a note on the NS beacon. I don't know if this would be allowed on TG or not, but there's a trick i learned with it. removed __________________ [T-BAGZ]Pred011586 Last edited by pred011586; 05-26-2008 at 11:50 PM.

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