Long Distance BAUR shooting

mentholated · 08-28-2008, 07:50 PM

Can someone teach me how to hit anything at 300+ meters? I've been unable to. I'm not sure how high to hold over my target or what.

**JRiop1** · 08-28-2008, 09:22 PM

An obvious thing: single shot will be most accurate. I'm not sure if there is bullet drop on the Baur. I imagine that there is some, and that it would most likely he the same as a regular sniper rifle. That being said, the easiest way Tobit someone at 300 meters is with a sniper rifle. Let us know if you discover somehong though.

**Anospa** · 08-29-2008, 12:19 PM

I can only guess at what the bullet drop would be like for the baur, but for the sniper rifles, its more than it would seem. I don't have any SS's handy, but looking at the crosshairs for the sniper rifle, you can see horizontal marks at and below the crosshairs. The first one sits very close the actual crosshair, and this one denotes 200m. This means that if you wish to hit a target 200m away, the bullet will land where this mark is, so you must raise your crosshairs to align your target with this mark. Each mark below this denotes an additional 200m. So, if you wish to hit a target 300m away, you must aim your crosshairs between the 200m and 400m marks.

As for how this corresponds to the baur, I'm not sure, as it usually just isn't worth it to try to hit targets that far out.

Hi_Im_Viejo · 08-29-2008, 01:24 PM

Sniping with BAUR at 300+ metres is virtually impossible unless you're a real pro. An average player will start to see difficulties even with sniper rifles at 300 +, so I don't think BAUR would be an option for extreme long range combat...

**jazy2** · 08-29-2008, 02:02 PM

The easiest way is to sprint forward for 200m and then take the easy shot!

Thats all I could come up with....I mean....why would you need to hit someone that far away anyway?

**Razcsak** · 08-29-2008, 02:15 PM

Don't bother? If they're 300 meters out, you shooting at them is going to do nothing but alert people to your location. Q-Spot them and go about your business. The only risk someone that far out could pose would be as a sniper, so generally just ignore them. The only map with that kind of effective range and a lack of cover is Tampa, which has plenty of vehicles.

**Specterr** · 08-29-2008, 08:18 PM

The argument of should or shouldn't left aside (this assumes you have a good reason to fire with an AR at that range) I do believe (by personal experience and previous discussions) that the Baur (and probably all other AR's) do not have any bullet drop, what you see is what you hit, so put your red dot over them and fire, back in my Baur days I remember being able to head shot stationary targets at maximum range without having to compensate for bullet drop. That said, bullet deviation is going to be huge out at that range, so give lots of time between rounds.

On a side note, in BF2 there was bullet drop for all weapons, this is generally why people assume 2142 has it as well.

Beinseth · 09-09-2008, 12:16 PM

Is there a thread on using the Baur in close to medium range? The other night Logicalharm was mowing us down with a baur, ranging from CQB to medium ranges and it was really starting to get on my nerves.

**Anospa** · 09-09-2008, 12:50 PM

Pound for pound, the Baur is the best CQC rifle, its only hindrance is the clip size. I believe there was a thread months back talking about this, but couldn't find it in a quick search, but it'd be worth digging for if you're interested in using the Baur in that regard.

**Damonte** · 09-09-2008, 02:19 PM

When Damonte was running CQC on Infantry-Only Berlin last night, he was packing the Baur and winning most of every 1v1 encounter. He also had to reload after each encounter to ensure he'd survive the next one.

The Baur will defeat the Voss in spray-and-pray situations due to the higher damage-per-bullet.

**Specterr** · 09-09-2008, 02:46 PM

in a 1v1 situation, at any range, the Baur is where it's at, though really it's a small piece in the pie. It still won't compensate for lack of accuracy, or getting the drop on someone else.

Accuracy > Initiative > Rifle Type

Beinseth · 09-10-2008, 01:48 AM

Damonte, I also ran with the Baur almost exclusively today and let me tell you something. That is one awesome weapon. My accuracey went on average to about 25-30% from high teens to low 20s. I was winning most 1v1, if I picked the right moment. The baur is mostly about timing and picking the right fire selction (e.i. semi auto or burst). When at long range, I was able to out snipe some snipers, but not the great ones. At medium to short range, only the shotty weilding engs gave me a problem. I am really starting to like the baur. Look out Logicalharm, I am gunning for you.

Mercenary90 · 09-10-2008, 03:13 AM

In my opinion, the Baur is best at semi-auto. The semi-auto reduces recoil, as the sights will only jump once per click compared to twice or thrice. In addition, the semi-auto forces the Baur user to be conservative with his/her ammunition, preventing situations where said user sprays in CQC and ends up with an empty clip and a missing head.

The Picric Hamster · 09-16-2008, 12:07 AM

I tend to use the faction-based assault rifles. The Baur's magazine size limits prolonged CQB combat potency, as well as the Voss' low damage-per-bullet.

Of the faction assault rifles, the EU version has excellent damage, with a thirty-round magazine. The PAC version has almost no recoil, allowing me to place neck- and head-shots at will, given I have the jump on my targets.

For sniping, I use the rockets.