Re: Titan Reactor Room

**LordKelvin** · 10-08-2008, 07:14 AM

"recon has the right of way"

A lot of people will be upset by that statement, I can see it already.

By the way, I completely agree with everything this man just posted except his first point. Major props. If someone is seriously stupid enough not to move when given fair warning, his life is forfeit.

**Jakaleel** · 10-08-2008, 10:13 AM

I would think if you titan assault squads consist of engineers, supports and assault/medics that recons are superfluous. If the engineers are taking down the shields and consoles, it seems to me that they can take down the core. Engineers tend to TK a lot less the RDX wielding recons. Watching multiple recons place RDX and trying to be the first to detonate it is comical if not for the TKing.

Considering that recons are using high explosives in a crowded confined space, why not request permission from your squad leader to detonate. It’s the chain of command, the TG way. Let the decision and responsibility fall on the leader’s shoulders. They can order the squad members out of the core (and request the commander to order other squads out as well) and order its destruction. Anybody TKed is guilty of failing to follow the commander and their squad leaders orders as well as possibility punishing for a TK.

**pred011586** · 10-08-2008, 12:51 PM

I was playing on some server long long long before i joined TG, and I saw a well organized squad utilize a 2 Assault, 2 Support, 1 Engie, 1 Recon squad in a very... interesting way.

The Recon came in with APM and RDX and instead of working on the core, he'd booby trap the entrances to the consoles, putting 2 APMs between the hanger and the console they were attacking, with an RDX on the shield itself. Personally I was scared to go through the door and instead of going in there went up and around through console 4 to come into console 2, where the rest of his squad was waiting for me, (minus the engies, who were owning the console).

When the Core was exposed he did the same thing to the hanger bay, nobody wanted to go through the shields because of the RDX, between the APMs on either side of the shield, and the RDX on the shield itself, he was almost able to single handedly hold off all the titan defenders, and by switching to lambert once they all charged through was able to hold the titan core entrance long enough for the engies to Pilum the core to nothing.

In retrospect I wonder... Does the difuser go through those shields?

**Gronigo** · 10-08-2008, 02:06 PM

What Pred is describing sounds like a winning tactic to me. I must admit that I was a recon type in Titan assaults, but after reading about the good and the bad sides, I think I'll switch to engineer from now on.

**Mech__Warrior** · 10-08-2008, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by pred011586

I was playing on some server long long long before i joined TG, and I saw a well organized squad utilize a 2 Assault, 2 Support, 1 Engie, 1 Recon squad in a very... interesting way.

The Recon came in with APM and RDX and instead of working on the core, he'd booby trap the entrances to the consoles, putting 2 APMs between the hanger and the console they were attacking, with an RDX on the shield itself. Personally I was scared to go through the door and instead of going in there went up and around through console 4 to come into console 2, where the rest of his squad was waiting for me, (minus the engies, who were owning the console).

When the Core was exposed he did the same thing to the hanger bay, nobody wanted to go through the shields because of the RDX, between the APMs on either side of the shield, and the RDX on the shield itself, he was almost able to single handedly hold off all the titan defenders, and by switching to lambert once they all charged through was able to hold the titan core entrance long enough for the engies to Pilum the core to nothing.

In retrospect I wonder... Does the difuser go through those shields?

Good lord! That is simply incredible! But I don't think the defuser goes through shields.

**Shurikane** · 10-08-2008, 07:49 PM

My first question to that is why didn't any defenders pod to the back of the Titan and work their way back to the reactor room...

**pred011586** · 10-08-2008, 08:56 PM

It all happened so quickly, they took out the first console, which triggered everyone to rush back to the titan, then the 2nd console had that setup, they blew that up before we could turn around and get to the pods. We were actually able to hold consoles 3 and 4 for a long while, but a co-ordinated squad beats unco-ordinated pubbies eventually. The reactor room was taken down too quickly, the siloes had our titan already almost dead didn't take long to finish it off. Was pretty amazing to see the trap-effect of the recon class in action, this was before I even heard of TG so a player that smart made me **** my pants. If I saw something like that now, I think I'd take it more in stride.

**kperkins1982** · 10-20-2008, 07:43 AM

sometimes people bring a lone wolf mentality to squad play. They will join a squad that has 2 recon already as a recon and now we have a squad attacking the titan with no medic and no support. Personally, I think 2 recon is too much, too many cooks in the kitchen i say.

Also, I've always been under the impression that the most important thing needed to blow the core is a MEDIC, note I didn't say assualt, I'm talking about somebody that is not concerned with kills, but stays behind cover and revives the attackers. Seems everybody wants to go for the glory and the points, they love to rush in with that rdx and blow the core regardless of what is around them.

Recon folks, please don't take offense. It is just a small few who I'm speaking of, problem is RDX is so powerful those small few can TK tons of people.

**frozenchrome** · 10-20-2008, 10:32 AM

Hmm ... edumakate me if I be wrong but...

Isn't it the commander's job to set up the assault on the Titan to ensure that only one squad winds up in the core to take it out? Even in the heat, confusion and chaotic-ness of battle?

**Catman1975** · 10-20-2008, 10:59 AM

We all know that we don't always have a communicating commander, plus sometimes Titan defense is strong enough to warrant more than one squad trying to penetrate those defense (at least on an initial push).

Situational awareness! There is no need for everyone to be on top of the core shooting it, stand back by the protective walls and watch what's going on. Shoot the core keeping an eye on the Recon laying RDX, when he/she starts to pull back, you pull back also, once detonated pop back out and start shooting.

As for Jakaleel's post, everyone is on the same comms within the squad. One person shouting, CLEAR THE CORE! should be enough to pull everyone back. If you've got a recon in the core, he's the boss when it comes to giving the order to take cover. If the Titan defense is halfway descent, they are going to start pouring into the core to get you off the Titan.

One thing as a support, I would always go to the back of the core and lay behind the protective wall (dropping a supply box for the recon while moving into position) Most Titan defenders are rushing into the core and not really paying attention to what's going on and it's easy to pick them off (at least the first couple of rushes

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**Specterr** · 10-20-2008, 11:12 AM

Just a note for those who do like to place RDX on the core and are concerned with blowing others up. I have found the best place to place the RDX is at the very bottom of the core closest to the north door (the one that leads up to the hanger). This is the best place to contain the blast and as long as nobody is directly ontop of the RDX you shouldn't team kill them. If used correctly RDX is the fastest and best way to take down a core, you just can't be all blast happy with it, remeber you can resupply RDX while still having your 5 set so you have time to wait for a good blast time.

**P.Stringer** · 10-20-2008, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by PM07SNV

Believe me, I was shouting for them to get out of the way, waiting and waiting, and most people were clear, except 1, so I think, this is a better time than never, and hopefully he will learn the lesson, but I waited too long, and others started entering dangerous ground as I clicked..

I did try my second time round to plant it on the other side, hoping this is more out of the way, but its riskier if your holding squads back as you have more ground to cover, and are open to gun fire. Is there a good place to plant the RDX? Low? High?

i play support on titans, and if you die il change kits faster than fat kids running for choclate, res u and ask for my kit back :P, in the core i generaly stay out or lob an ammo crate in and hide for dear life holding the back as long as i can, as for the best place to lay RDX if you get a chance look realy close and youl see little tiny power boxes and vents :P think VENT and walker, where would you sitck explosives :P, im not sure as to damage but i would bet my money there, and the exposed plasma coil at the top would in my opinion be the best place for bullets pilums and RDX shotgun shells, as its furthest away from players, and thus less chance of team kills,

**pred011586** · 10-20-2008, 12:50 PM

Take a Ganz into the Reactor Core and shoot at those exposed plasma coils by yourself and you'll actually see the Titan Hull decreasing slowly up top. 6 Ganzes shooting at that coil at the same time can take down a Titan faster than a lone Recon RDXing. Just RDX is alot "silenter" (more damage at once) so the enemy has less time to react.

**Uranium - 235** · 10-21-2008, 04:53 PM

I'm going to spill a secret here - if you're defending on Titan, put RDX on the core. You can't hurt it, and the enemies will either happily ignore it completely thinking it's friendly RDX (and they won't care), or they won't enter it waiting for it to blow up.

It's a lot of fun!

**Demarcus** · 10-22-2008, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Uranium - 235

I'm going to spill a secret here - if you're defending on Titan, put RDX on the core. You can't hurt it, and the enemies will either happily ignore it completely thinking it's friendly RDX (and they won't care), or they won't enter it waiting for it to blow up.

It's a lot of fun!

Oh, that is evil!

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