Re: Assault Rifle - Baur

**Tarenth** · 10-12-2008, 07:56 PM

Hmmm...I should probably point out something there HighNoon.

Recoil is the kick your weapon gives when fired. Generally speaking once fired it will jerk upwards and maybe to the side a bit throwing off your aim of subsequent shots before it is brought back around. This is easily readjusted by dragging the weapon back into position while firing so that you keep the business end pointed at the enemy. In short recoil is the movement of your crosshairs from center mass.

Deviation is the increase in the spread your bullets make when going from point A to point B. Once fired the weapon generally becomes less accurate causing the rounds to miss the intended target by straying off its intended course unless the sights have settled. This can be mitigated slightly with the sights and better shooting positions (stationary, crouched, or prone) but will still build up to the point where your chances of hitting become less than your chances of missing. In short deviation is the change in the size of your crosshairs. In theory with a deviation large enough you'd be able to hit someone standing next to you or even behind you depending on how wild the round flies.

An example of these two seperate properties would be any of the machine guns the support totes around. They have a high recoil and a negitive deviation so when fired the crosshairs will jerk around but will get smaller as they warm up and zero in. When talking about marksmanship here its generally accepted that people know the crosshairs belong on what you're shooting so recoil readjustment is assumed.

What practice with the Baur will gain you is an inner sense of how to play the probabilities and cut the cooldown period to the point where you can fire reliably without killing your rate of fire. Since your sights will shrink to normal while its cooling down people experienced with the Baur typically readjust their rate of fire so that the sights are just large enough to hit their target so they can increase their rate of fire beyond 1 per second. So that means at long distance they may wait for the full cooldown period to make use of the more accurate cold fire while they open up at short range to fire the full 10 rounds per second (600 Rounds per minute) because the sights take longer to grow beyond the body of the target.

**<FHC]==0 HighNoon** · 10-13-2008, 07:41 AM

Ah yes, you just said "1-second cool-off time" and I assumed you meant recoil, not deviation. My bad.

Through testing with single-shot I've found the deviation either does not in fact have a 1-second cooldown or that there's almost no deviation at all. I say this without bragging (because anyone could learn to do it with a few minutes of spare time to practice) but I've fired single-shot bullets at a wall roughly 60 meters away and I could get 3-4 shots in one full second in almost identical placement (certainly within headshot territory). So that deviation is really a non-issue. Lag would have a greater effect on shooting than any measurable deviation (at least in crouched+scoped single-shot).

Of course, doing that while under fire or in combat is another story, but that's not the gun's fault.

**Spulat** · 10-13-2008, 10:12 AM

I recently had the Voss become available to me as a Field Upgrade, after I had been using the Baur for a while...

Found it to be too weak of a gun, and with some time spent with the Baur already (and the discovery of it's capability/control in single-shot...) I'll stick with it, instead of the Voss.

**LordKelvin** · 10-15-2008, 04:47 PM

I honestly still can't figure out how to use the Voss. Period. It has the control of a fireman's hose but without the power. I can't hit the broad side of a barn with it. When confronted with an enemy soldier, the gun begins to pour lead in a seeming cone of bullets that somehow entirely misses the target.

The Baur, on the other hand, is like a jack-hammer. At close range, it's the equal of the shotgun. At long range, on single shot, it's the closest thing to a sniper rifle you can get without it actually being one, and is actually more accurate (less sideways deviation) than the Morretti! It's only weakness is mid-range, where it's too close to use single-shot, but the full-auto throws your sights everywhere.

This is why my new favorite weapon is the Krylov. It has high damage, low deviation provided you are scoped, decent firing rate, and a nice clip size. I can usually kill 3 people before having to reload. I really <3 this gun, and try to play PAC as much as possible.

**DrFlop** · 10-15-2008, 04:56 PM

I also unlocked the voss first, then baur and now – after recoil training, the krylov is great for a workhorse assault weapon.

**Berlancic** · 10-19-2008, 03:30 AM

Actually, just my opinion, if you master the Scar/Krylov I think you can very well master the Baur, especially if you do Scar/Krylov in singleshot. Sometimes I find myself engaging targets nearly 20m away in singleshot with scar or krylov. I have used this with Baur and it's pretty awesome. 5 shots and they're out of there. So I don't think you need to use Baur on single only if target is 100m away. You can decimate a target quickly in singleshot even in close quarters, although you need to have a good finger from practice. Not that I ALWAYS use all assault weapons on singleshot. I'm saying that a target can be killed just as well as in full auto. Good tips and such though.

**Kappa** · 10-22-2008, 07:20 AM

Yeah it really comes down to how you control your weapon. I'll actucally sometimes go into singleplayer and I'll go off somewhere, find a target on a side of a building or something and move while practicing my control of my recoil. Obsessed maybe? but I believe it's helped my shooting immensely.

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