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05-04-2009, 01:37 PM
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Re: The Baur.
i've recently started to favour the baur over the voss, because I like its rapid stopping power and the ability to take out players from distance with 2-3 hits very easily. The baur is certainly a weapon that takes getting used to and like all the other assault weapons it has its drawbacks and its advantages.
You can quote statistics such as dmg/second but you can use statistics to say anything you like. For jumping around a corner and nailing 3 guys, you can do it with the baur, a single clip used well can take out 3-5 people. That said, if your opponents are any good they should be able to take you out in this situation regardless of which weapon you are using (unless shotgun or unglitched herzog).
One problem i see with the krylov is that, even though I love it so, its a PAC weapon, and you spend the other half of your time playing without it unless of course you find someone and take their kit. Since adopting the baur recently I find myself holding this weapon round after round, for improvement sake, and by changing weapons constantly requires you to re-acquire feel for that weapon. I suppose this is one reason why the krylov is possibly underused compared to the voss.
Overall, I think the baur is a great weapon, I use it like my other assault rifles and that means pretty much never in single shot mode, single shot mode = dead Flik.
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05-04-2009, 02:25 PM
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Re: The Baur.
I hate the Baur unless I'm running around the enemy Titan. I just cannot get kills with it unless I'm jamming in some poor idiot's chest. Works wonders and close range, but I just as soon take the Krylov before it.
I definitely prefer the Krylov or Voss.
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05-04-2009, 06:51 PM
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Re: The Baur.
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Baur's ... rapid stopping power
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The concept of "stopping power" has no meaning in battlefield. Damage per bullet and per second are applicable.
Voss does more damage per second.
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the ability to take out players from distance with 2-3 hits very easily
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Also known as the ability to "run an aimbot."
2-3 shot kill is a very difficult thing to pull off in CQ and requires headshots.
At a distance, it's fairly unrealistic to expect headshots.
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05-04-2009, 07:42 PM
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Re: The Baur.
I think the Baur is decent for long range combat on single shot. It does enough damage that if you hit your target a couple of times you will probably take him/her down. But I gave up the Baur a long time ago and stuck with the default assault rifle guns. Now I use the Voss because of its accuracy in full auto and large ammo supply per clip.
When I used the Baur I would normally see myself in the lower to mid range of the match rankings. Same with the standard Assault guns. With the Voss though, I'm beginning to see myself more in the mid to upper ranks per match.
I have seen people who are really good with the Baur, but it just isn't my cup of tea.
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05-04-2009, 11:16 PM
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Re: The Baur.
I personally believe that a semi-auto Baur at mid-to-long range is godlike due to its large damage-per-bullet and good accuracy.
Often, if you cannot land a killing blow, at the very least you can inflict 25 damage to 75 damage (I believe that is how much damage it deals, as the 2142 stats site is down right now). Plus, I sometimes just spray it on semi-auto into an area I know enemies to be, but I cannot see. Oftentimes, the superior stopping power of the Baur will finish off a relatively wounded enemy that I cannot see.
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05-04-2009, 11:22 PM
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Re: The Baur.
When I run a squad, I usually find myself picking up the Voss because of it's suppression capabilities: i.e getting yourself out of tough unexpected situations where only a massive wall of lead can save you, which I usually find myself getting into. HOWEVER, when I am a squad member, I pack the baur because I usually engage enemies further away than when I usually do when I lead.
I really love the Baur and I'm beginning to use it more frequently (again). The chief drawback is its inability to kill three hostiles in a surprise encounter because it can usually only kill two due to it's small clip.
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05-04-2009, 11:41 PM
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Re: The Baur.
Bauer has a good accuracy - for one Bullet. Then itīs all over the place due to the recoil. Even 2 round bursts are not reliable with it.
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05-05-2009, 12:01 AM
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Re: The Baur.
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Bauer has a good accuracy - for one Bullet. Then itīs all over the place due to the recoil. Even 2 round bursts are not reliable with it.
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On semi-auto as well?
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05-05-2009, 04:10 AM
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Re: The Baur.
I was going to say in my first post that Zhohar and Lyramion are not going to like this. They both have good points but I don't see why Baur should be worse than Voss, accuracy is just question of luck too. I have ended up killing 3 guys with one clip where the 3rd guy was standing at very right of me, and him and the other guy died at the same time because accuracy changed so much that I didn't need to aim for him (luck but still)!
I usually lose to the Voss, not because of the weapon, but because my reaction time is slower. I have to name player called <r.k.> L.E.A.F (I think it was typed like that) here; he is definitely the master of this weapon. He hits you into the head even if you are running and he personally says that he couldn't do the same with Voss, didn't say why but he only uses Baur!
Voss is easier to use, that is the fact, but I bet that Baur has much more hidden potential than it!
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05-05-2009, 05:15 AM
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Re: The Baur.
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I was going to say in my first post that Zhohar and Lyramion are not going to like this. They both have good points but I don't see why Baur should be worse than Voss, accuracy is just question of luck too.
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For me it's all about which situations and game-types you can use it in. Overall the krylov/voss fits to more of those than the baur. But the baur is deadily like any other weapon if you are good with it twitch/aim-wise, use the terrain so you can use it's range to your advantage and have other sm/team-mates that fulfill the other roles that's needed for the situation you are in.
For example, it's not a good medic-horde weapon when flag-hopping because you need range to use it most effecient. But if you are in an organised squad defending a flag where you hang more back with it and the others are in front with voss/krylov's it works better.
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05-05-2009, 05:26 AM
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Re: The Baur.
When I started playing this game, I was really frustrated with the basic assault rifles, due to simply being new to them, and was always wiped out by Voss or Baur. I couldn't wait to get the next rifle, and did I like the Baur? NO! I was still new, and this gun was a nightmare to use. So I get the Voss, and finally I can win a gun fight 1 on 1..
Now with experience, going back to the original weapons is great! But can I use the Baur still?? I did try to use it and get used to it, but I just can't train myself to control it. I have to unload whatever I have into my opponent, and unless they are sitting on the end of my baur, I can't seem to get the desired results.
Who notices the difference in game style required for these weapons? I find I'm a much better player with the Krylov, coz I take cover more, but with Voss, I just run around any which way.. I'm holding off unlocking the Voss on my other soldier until very last.
Lets have a Baur night!
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05-05-2009, 06:13 AM
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Re: The Baur.
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For me it's all about which situations and game-types you can use it in. Overall the krylov/voss fits to more of those than the baur. But the baur is deadily like any other weapon if you are good with it twitch/aim-wise, use the terrain so you can use it's range to your advantage and have other sm/team-mates that fulfill the other roles that's needed for the situation you are in.
For example, it's not a good medic-horde weapon when flag-hopping because you need range to use it most effecient. But if you are in an organised squad defending a flag where you hang more back with it and the others are in front with voss/krylov's it works better.
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Yeah all true here, I just don't personally like that these threads always turn into ''Why not to use Baur'' threads... I tried to came up with my point that even as Voss is such devastating weapon, I don't see why all should use it. Eventually I don't care about which weapon I have as long as I can do my job with it.
I think Baur is good and this tactic thread for it is deserved, instead of finding why to use other weapons I'd like to hear how people use it
(Not trying to be saint here, I'am as aggressive as those who were throwing facts against)
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05-05-2009, 06:29 AM
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Re: The Baur.
Don't really like the Baur. I played with it exclusively for a month or two and when I went back to the other rifles it struck me as exceptional...ly unimpressive. Sure it has "stopping power" -- it's an assault rifle. Compared to the Turcotte it's great (actually in CQC I'd rather have the Turcotte)!
I do use the Baur sometimes though, for the rocket reload speed and also because it sounds and looks totally kickass. Wish they could've made the Voss look like that. =[
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05-05-2009, 12:01 PM
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Re: The Baur.
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On semi-auto as well?
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THE ACCURACY IS GOOD BUT THE RECOIL IS UTTER SH*T !!!!
There is no 2 burst semi auto! Itīs bad ! 2nd shot is very likely to miss. at the same time you can easily plant 2 shot with a Voss or Krylov
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05-05-2009, 12:03 PM
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Re: The Baur.
This is bad, you ticked off the German.... :O
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