For an APC squad I've always been a fan of seeing the SL driving as support kit. Drop an IDS underneath the APC, switch to EMP grenades and hop in the driver seat. With that setup, everything that a support kit brings to a squad can be accomplished from the driver seat.

I think the gunner should be Engineer with MMBait and PDS. Again PDS underneath and switch to MMBait before hopping in.

If you're running a 2-man APC squad, that's enough right there. If 3-5 have the rest as assault kits, if 6-man APC squad, bring a second engineer with MMs and MMBait.

For the Pros and Cons:


Support kit:
+ Mobile Ammo box
+ IDS gives you 360 degree vision so that you don't get RDX as easily.
+ Having a non-Engineer in the driver seat means you can pop shields and back off if needed, while in mid-repair. You can have all the situational awareness in the world, but you don't know if that infantry halfway across the map is even looking at you, nevermind aiming a pilum at your face. Plus without someone in the APC, you won't hear the beeps from Rorsche, default rockets, or gunships.
+ As SL, gives your squad a much safer spawn point compared to being exposed to open air.

- Repairing will be slower in a less than 6 man squad.


1st Engineer kit:
+ Mobile repair kit for other vehicles
+ PDS gives you 360 degree vision so that you can keep tabs on that enemy walker that's around the corner and predict it's movement.
+ Self-repairs and MMBait. What else could you ask for? <3
+ Can switch to a pod seat and flank enemy armor for a high dmg shot with the aid of the APC's Emp mortar.

- n/a


Assault kits:
+ Gives your APC flag capping ability. At first you might think 4 assault kits vs the enemy is a sure loss, but don't forget that it's 4 assault kits and an APC vs the enemy. As long as your assault kits only assault flags that the APC can give support fire for they'll have a degree of success similar, if not higher, than a 6-man assault squad.

- Having more people sitting still in your APC is taking away from the team. If you're going to be sporting a full squad don't back and shell flags. A 2-man squad and a full squad have to play differently in that aspect. If you have people in your squad that are being useless, either change your tactics, or ask them to leave squad so they can be useful somewhere else.


2nd Engineer kit:
+ Gives you that 2nd repair kit you lose by having a Support kit driving.
+ Allows you to do minor repairs on the APC while both the driver and gunner seats remain active.
+ MMs allow you to lay traps for enemy armor that's chasing the APC.
+ MMbait allows for you to clear MMs while the driver and gunner seats remain active.

- If he's not needed, he's wasting firepower that another squad could be using.


Kit vehicle positions for 2-man squad:
SL - Support - Driver
SM - Engineer - Gunner

Kit vehicle positions for 6-man squad:
SL - Support - Driver
SM - Engineer - Gunner/Passenger
SM - Assault - Gunner/Passenger
SM - Assault - Gunner/Passenger
SM - Assault - Gunner/Passenger
SM - Engineer - Gunner/Passenger

It really doesn't matter who's gunning. In fact if you're running a full squad it may be better to let one of your assault kits hop in the gunner seat so that you don't lose any firepower during emergency repairs.


In my opinion the 2-man APC squad is better. Although it's nice to be able to pack a small squad in the APC with you, those are 4 guns that could probably be used better somewhere else. If the APC is part of a larger armor squad, I still feel that the SL should be driving. The APC can be used to transport your squad members to the nearest piece of armor if they can't spawn at it. In this case, there should be a designated 2-man APC fire team, with the remaining squad members taking other armor, rather than sitting in the APC.