Otus V. Accipiter

SGT.Link · 07-02-2009, 12:02 PM

I perused the squad leader threads prior to making this post and hope I didn't overlook a quick explanation but I was curious about something.

If an SL is support with IDS is Otus w/ IDS just double coverage of the same and would an accipiter with IDS do the same job or does the otus and IDS provide different data of a sort?

HenkeTheMonkey · 07-02-2009, 12:11 PM

Otus for the win..

Otus will make all your enemies into dimonds on your screen (will not point them out to red dots on your mini map though), which will increase your awareness around a flag/area that you're attacking/defending or just pushing through an area with pontential ambush.

The accipiter will on the other hand kill your enemies.. but only those who are shown with an dimond on the map. This pretty much means that you/or someone else, have to spot them before your acci will react.

I don't know the radies on these.. (I'm too lazy to search for it now) but someone on this site will know for sure..

SGT.Link · 07-02-2009, 12:17 PM

But what if you are running with and IDS from support on the bottom of your Accipiter. Will it then work like and Otus with guns?

**DrBeat** · 07-02-2009, 12:24 PM

The accipiter, or "spanky" latches on to the diamonds, not IDS red dots of doom.

SGT.Link · 07-02-2009, 12:29 PM

Ahh ok so Otus makes them diamonds and IDS makes them pop on mini-map. So together it's like a hand held UAV happy meal.

I like it.

Thanks for the clarification. ^_^

**pred011586** · 07-02-2009, 12:31 PM

No, the IDS doesn't put diamonds on your screen.

As Henke said, the IDS will put dots on your minimap, what the Otus does is give you a diamond on your screen as well. So if the dot shows to be near a wall, the diamond will tell you if the person is on top of the wall, or at the bottom of the wall.

Without the Otus you don't get the diamonds. As for which one is more useful, I'd say the Otus, only because the Accipiter works off a different spot system than the squad that takes longer to "spot" targets. You have to stare at a target for a very long time in order to trigger the accipiter's guns. In that time, you might as well just shoot them yourself. However there are advantages, say a Support with a shotgun, can put suppressive fire on unexpecting distant troops by aiming at the enemy.

Between the advantages of both, I'd go with the Otus's increased situational awareness, over an extra gun with high maintainence.

HenkeTheMonkey · 07-02-2009, 12:32 PM

sadly not.. as I said before, the acci will only engage enemies within your NetBat System (dimonds)

but you could, as you said, put an IDS on your acci, then you'll know when your enemy/ies comes sround the corner, you could stay behind cover, pop up and Q-spot them, and join your acci in the bloodbath

To sum it up.. the otus and the acci are using two 'different' systems..
otus - sends info to your NetBat
acci - recive info from your NetBat

*edit - what they said

(they beat me to it)

SGT.Link · 07-02-2009, 12:34 PM

I think I like the sound of the Otus with IDS best, plus since it's a swift unlock for a lot of people I can toss my IDS on the SL's Otus if I'm not leading.

HenkeTheMonkey · 07-02-2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGT.Link

I think I like the sound of the Otus with IDS best, plus since it's a swift unlock for a lot of people I can toss my IDS on the SL's Otus if I'm not leading.

Yeah.. it's a nice combo..
your IDS will tell you what kind of enemy you're encounter.. and will show them to everyone in your team (on the minimap and the big map) and the commander.

and your otus will tell exactly where they are, high or low.

SGT.Link · 07-02-2009, 12:44 PM

That's good. Thanks for the feedback and clarification guys. Now I just need to put some sweat equity into it and get those unlocks taken care of.

**Zoraster** · 07-03-2009, 02:04 AM

mmm otus. Such a help. As mentioned before, even if you have an IDS or UAV, the otus (1) adds the all important third dimension and (2) makes it so that you aren't necessarily looking at your minimap for everything [though I think most players spend a ton of time looking at their minimap]

Greyed · 07-03-2009, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoraster

(1) adds the all important third dimension and (2) makes it so that you aren't necessarily looking at your minimap for everything

(3) puts a big "shoot me first" sign over your head.

**Reaperassault** · 07-03-2009, 03:34 AM

(4) puts a "big marker" for your squad to revive you first

the otus is a wonderful thing, yes it might give you away some but if your squad knows where people are first then the enemy (should) die first

**machowner** · 07-03-2009, 03:43 AM

I've seen a lot of SLs running the accipiter lately. I don't know why, I mean, when is the last time you were actually killed by an accipiter? Its a complete waste when you could be giving your squad some info, instead of trying to pad some stats with kills.

Nine.Thousand · 07-03-2009, 05:33 AM

Accipiter is exceptionally good at laying down cover fire so your squad can revive you. It's far from useless. That said, the Otus is objectively superior. I also never understood the argument that the Otus increased your visibility. If you're in a situation where stealth is vital, simply don't deploy it.