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07-21-2009 02:33 PM #1
Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
Well, figured I would post a breakthrough technique that I used yesterday on Minsk to break through the well-defended first flag. I have screenies!
I started SL, and waited to see which side more of my team spawned on.

A little hard to make out, but there are more people on the left side of the bunkers. So I spawn in sniper with cloak/ghost. My squad holds spawn. I was planning on passing that squad, laying my ghost on the corner of the bunker, and cloaking around them, but...

That hillside provided a perfect vantage point, and rockets were flying everywhere at our squads. I ordered everyone to spawn in, hopefully providing enough fodder for me to pass unnoticed while stealthed.

My squad has only two defenders directly between us and freedom. We take them out, but a few enemies notice our attempt, and quickly cross over to help defend that flank.


They take us out.


Or so they thought =P Muahaha the diving revive of LOVE!!

But seriously, I did die there.

I told my squad to hold spawn, and seeing that some of the enemy forces that were on the right flank had moved left, I decided to spawn in on the right side.

The right side is slightly better for stealthing by, since you can climb the hill to the right (going slightly out of bounds), which gives you more distance between you and the enemy line to your left, near where the screenie is taken (I think I am traveling out of bounds, cloaked).
I ran to the right, laid a ghost as close to enemy lines as I could without being shot, and ran as far as I thought was safe without any possibility of being seen, then ordered my squad to spawn in and attack their defenses there.

They were just distracted enough to not notice me slipping by. Once my squad had been eliminated, they respawned with me next to their Hill flag.

I ordered them to attack that flag, knowing that enemies would soon be spawning in there. I continued on past that flag towards the back flag.
Before:

After:

lol.
I sent them back to that flag once more to be sure all defenders were occupied while I slipped away.

My reasoning behind these attacks on hillside were not just to distract the enemy to ensure my survival, but also to take that flag, and hopefully the back one as well, with me providing a spawn point just in case. Unfortunately their defenses at Hill were bulked up, and the flag was not capped by these attacks. My squad was ordered to spawn in near me and head towards the back flag.

Everyone on EU that was ordered to defend hill is now spawned in there with nothing to kill, since the rest of my team is still at the front bunkers. That leaves them with no quick way back to their rear flag (no one dies from an attack), leaving it all alone for my taking =)

OM NOM FLAG

Hide a beacon somewhere nearby, just in case the hill defense catches up with you before your team realizes that they should spawn in the back flag (took a few minutes for PAC to start spawning in there). Defend that back flag with your life, or until your commander orders you away on another attack =)
This is just one of the possibilities of how to break through at minsk against other TG players (this was during primetime). This tactic can also work on other maps, such as fall of berlin (I'll post a tactic on that later, when the map actually comes up in rotation...)
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07-21-2009 05:16 PM #2
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
Good tactic, but was that Minsk yesterday? I didn't even know that a back flag had fallen.

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Playing MW2 as:
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07-21-2009 10:41 PM #3
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
nice- the screenies make it like reading a comic book! (should have little speech bubbles over the little soldiers!). Also, it shows well how a recon can do well as SL.
I got yer Dancing With the F**&ing Stars right here!!
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07-22-2009 03:45 PM #4
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
yeah, my team didn't notice for like 4 or 5 minutes that my squad had taken the back flag lol, so we sorta lost the element of surprise. I suppose I shoulda said something.

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07-23-2009 01:19 AM #5
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
has anyone else had success with a separate strategy on minsk?

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07-23-2009 09:02 AM #6
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
Not many options though really.
1 - Left
2 - Right
3 - Middle
4 - Snipe
Glad you found the 2 that sometimes work.
Can we do another 1 of these for a Toll stand-off/break-thru? I like the comic feel of this post!
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07-23-2009 10:33 AM #7
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Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
I have to agree with Tango....I love the comic book feel. It gives a better understanding to the strategy you implemented. I don't know about the little bubbles over heard lol maybe a lil too much but I'm feeling this technique. Thank you very much Mr. Ander50on. Look forward to taking that class.
I'm sure I will learn tons with you as the instructor!
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07-23-2009 05:34 PM #8
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
Is there really any un-obvious ways to breakthrough on Toll though? It seems as though everybody already knows HOW to get by, even the defenders, so every way is blocked. The Minsk breakthrough was out of the ordinary, so hardly any defenders were alerted. No matter where you try to break through on Toll there will be someone blocking your path.

Playing BF2142 as:
|TG| Deterhek
|TG| D.E.T.E.R
Playing MW2 as:
|TG| D*3*T*3*R
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07-23-2009 07:51 PM #9
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
I will try to post a breakthrough on Toll, once I can get into the game and actually have a camp G standoff there. I havent had much time to play in the last few days, but I will try to get on in the next few. There are ways to get through the camp Gib standoff, relatively easily, if everyone in your squad cooperates and does exactly what you ask them to. The real question is, do you NEED to get through =P

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08-24-2009 05:11 PM #10
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
Right, it's Minsk infantry only tonight. Can we, instead of trying these elaborate recon rushes on either side of frontlines, just try some sheer brute force?
I'm talking 3 squads of 6 straight up the middle, rocket fire at the bunker/trenches, storm the bunker and Robert's your father's brother.In Order to Dance



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08-24-2009 07:47 PM #11
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08-24-2009 09:18 PM #12
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
Personally I would love to see the whole team go recon and camo through. At least one guy is bound to make it!
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08-24-2009 10:38 PM #13
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
Of course, there is the whole "you can't spawn on a squad member" thing.
Personally, I love all-cloak runs. They're usually quite hilarious, especially so if they succeed. However, the cloakers usually just end up being invisible recon meat shields for the squad leader, and even then there is no guarantee the squad leader will survive.He was told that he should not kill, and he did not kill, until he got into the Army. Then he was told to kill, and he killed.


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08-25-2009 09:24 AM #14
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
Well, I did this last night. While the rest of my team were sitting down in the bunkers waiting to be killed, me and my squad ran straight up the middle, across the trench-bridge and fought our way to the bunker numerous times. We got the flag up twice, and I even managed to get down to South Outpost to get that flag down. Unfortunately while I was doing this, the rest of my team decided it was probably better to do nothing.
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08-31-2009 10:15 AM #15
Re: Infantry Only Minsk Breakthrough Techniques
I find a lot of the time that people don't notice when a backflag goes up, and they refuse to spawn in on it.

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