Telorn

While reading another thread Tarenth mentioned how Sarc's rifle rockets were damaging the core. I don't know if this is true, but this is an excellent tactic to take out an enemy core if they're bunched up in there defending.

If this is true, I think it would require the defending team to come out of their core and engage the enemy. Otherwise a bunch of Assaults can just blow the core up while the defenders sit in core doing nothing.

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LuckyStrike

How many rockets does it take?

=Sarc=

A lot. I was firing rockets into the core room for at least 10 minutes and never destroyed the core. Silo missiles were faster at damaging the titan hull. This may be effective with more players firing rockets but I can see this countered by the defending squad moving into the main room or using rockets as well.

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Tarenth

In a sense the 'core' doesn't have any health to it. When you attack the core you do damage to the titan itself so the health of the titan is directly reflected by the health of the core. The airburst rockets will do about as much damage as they would do against the weak point of other vehicles. While they won't destroy it outright it will force those in it to take measures against the attacker or they will be taken out eventually.

Its not an 'easy win' solution, but it is a method of damaging the titan without putting yourself on the direct offensive and forcing the enemy to counter attack to stop you. Its a win-win situation if the direct approach is having problems. If they don't stop you then eventually the titan will blow up, if they do stop you then they have to leave the reactor room to get at you...unless you're sniped.

Also Sarc, you were ranging your rockets to get at the people behind the front bulkhead meaning you were doing only the occasional 'near hit' damage to the reactor and splash damage most of the time. The damage is still there, but maybe you should push the rockets closer to the reactor for more bang.

We should test this to see how fast assault teams using rockets ranged at the reactor can whittle it down.

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BHack

This would never work. The "splash damage" of a rocket against the titan core is neglible. The game timer would run out before you could ever kill a core this way.

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Yoyi

I agree this does not sound like it would be a very good way to destroy a titan core

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I think this method might be a better way to breach into the core room. Give enough suppressive fire with rockets and other squad members could move into the room.

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Zoopy_T

Well you can get 2 full squads of Assulters with rockets, and a third squad of Support with ammo boxes, you'd have 36 rocks shot into the core. Assuming the reload time on the rocket is 3 seconds (just a rough guess), that would mean 720 hit the core every minute. And how much damage is that? I have no idea...

BHack

lol. You guys make cool plans. Too bad the enemy doesn't play along.

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Elite_Master

Yes, very 'interesting' plan but it's true that a flurry of rockets is better used to try to thin the defense before storming the room (or hallway for that matter). There are plenty of other weapons that do much more damage to the core than assault rockets. Recently I saw a very interesting tactic used by one team I was up against - they used a 'Zerg' attack to just pour into the core and we killed them all but they also killed us completely - while I was dead I saw one lone enemy Recon walking in and figured he was going after the core.. after respawning the entire defense set back up (about 6-8 guys) and then BOOM - we were all dead - only then I realized the very smart recon did not put RDX on the core, he threw them all over the place (scattered) and while we were all dead, the entire enemy assault team came in and destroyed the core... I thought that was pretty cool.

Zoopy_T

Ha, that is awesome. Another funny thing to do once the core is open is put APM mines in hallways 3 and 4. Someone always thinks they are smart and will flank the attackers the reactor room. And if mine FF is on you are less likely to get teamkills since not many attackers go down halls 3 and 4 when the core is open.

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I'm beginning to think that Zerging is a good method. The few times I've seen defenses broken is from a bunch of players rushing a corridor. I thought assault rockets would work but it's pretty tough to get any kills down a corridor.

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jepzilla

I've seen a Titan console be destroyed by grenade spam. The core takes about four times as much damage... of course rockets don't do as much damage as grenades.

Honestly though, it doesn't seem like a sensible strategy to me. That kind of destruction is going to clear out the defenders; why not move in and secure the core room and blow it up the old fasioned way, with RDX?

A little of column A, a little of column B. Most successful assaults I've seen involve zerging, after a couple of successful grenades and rockets.

Elite_Master

Yea, that's a good idea to put AP mines in the corridors adjacent to the open core room, although you have to remain alive for those to work which is tough when acting as a recon in the middle of a meat grinder. It's too bad that rockets are not that effective down the corridors ( as soon as you strafe out to shoot down the hallway you get cut down ). But they are really good for shooting from the cargo bays into the core room to thin the defenses. Also, it's true the best way to go is to thin the defenses, then rush in with an attacking force and have a recon or two run in behind them to try to blow the core. If you are a recon and are alone (enough) you can drop an AP mine at the front and back entrances to the core room before you start laying down RDX; no one every takes the time to watch where they step when they re-spawn and run for the core room to defend.