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Discussion: Battlefield 2142 / Battlefield 2142 - Tactics and Missions Discussion - Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics - How about this for CO to SL VOIP comms;
Idea 1
Say who you are,
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12-18-2006, 06:58 PM #1
Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
How about this for CO to SL VOIP comms;
Idea 1
Say who you are, how do you know they won’t confuse your voice with a squad member
“Commander to … “
Idea 2
Say who you are talking to, to make sure you get their attention
“Commander to squad 3 … “
“Commander to 3 … “
“Commander to squads 1 and 4 … “
“Commander to 1 and 4 “
“Commander to all squads … “
Idea 3
Instruct clearly on what you want over & above simple defend/attack orders
“Commander to 3, stay on defence at offices … “
“Commander to 3 and 4, move closely together in force up the west flank and take the offices … “
“Commander to squad 3, you’re defence order is on the offices, where are you going? … “
“Commander to all squads, we’re 60 points up, good work, continue to hold your positions on top of the hill and let them come up into our kill zone …”
Idea 4
OUT = communication over, no response required
OVER = you expect a response
“Commander to 3, stay on defence at offices, out“
“Commander to 3 and 4, move closely together in force up the west flank and take the offices, out“
“Commander to squad 3, you’re defence order is on the offices, where are you going? over“
“Commander to all squads, we’re 60 points up, good work, continue to hold your positions on top of the hill and let them come up into our kill zone, out”
To speak all squads;
Press the ‘B’ key (if you were squad leading, this would be the talk to commander key)
To talk to one squad;
Highlight that squad in the command screen in the top left, then
Press the ‘V’ key (if you were in a squad that would be the talk to squad key)
To talk to multiple squads;
Highlight multiple squads in the command screen in the top left, then
Press the ‘V’ key (if you were in a squad that would be the talk to squad key)
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12-18-2006, 07:00 PM #2
Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
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Forget Bleed ?
Originally Posted by Bommando
Originally Posted by BHack
Originally Posted by Arf
Originally Posted by Jepzilla
On our ranked 2142 servers we cannot alter how bleed works.
On TG unranked BF2 we have custom scripts to make bleed more..well er…bloody, so winning came from a combination of two strategies; bleed & kill zones. Fundamentaly it was get more flags than them then, your kill zones were around your flag as they approach to attack your flag. They had to attack to stop the bleed on them. On BF2142 bleed is so pitifully weak compared to ‘kill zones’ that as a commander you might as well forget bleed as a viable strategy and just go for creating kill zones whether or not they have more flags.
This is my opinion, comments ?
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12-18-2006, 10:21 PM #3
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
One quick question? If you highlight one squad and hit "V" to talk to it, does the squad hear it or just that squad leader?
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12-18-2006, 10:34 PM #4
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
the following assumes you are the CO:
Highlight the squad you are interested in on your screen.
press the button you use to talk to players while in a squad. Doing so will get you a live mic to the squad leader of the squad you clicked or highlighted.
No one else can hear what you guys are saying.
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No matter what squad you highlight, when you press the button you use to talk to a CO with when your a squadleader, every squad leader will hear this.
So if your outside your CO screen and need to talk to someone on the fly, every SL will hear this.
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Lastly if you want to check at the squad make ups, and see who the SLs are and the name of the squad, press the enter button. This is important to do during the countdown timer in order to understand your support squads and such.
PS this worked in Van, I do not know about 2142.
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The following assumes you are no longer the CO:
For me my squad comm button is V. I found this much easier to talk and fight with. Everyone knows i talk a lot.
I changed my SL to CO comm link to B. This is a longer reach but i spend 98% of my time not pressing this when communicating on VOIP so i am good with that.
Therefore as a CO I use the V button to talk to one squad leader at a time. I press B to talk to every SL at once.(PO3) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Member
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Squad Member pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...ad-leader.html
Squad Leader pledge to their team:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...r-platoon.html
Commander pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...d-leaders.html
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12-18-2006, 10:48 PM #5
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
This is the first thing I did when i got BF2. I refuse to reach all the way over to B when talking to a squad member. So my set-up is like 2142. Originally Posted by Bommando
V is much closer.
Good to see EA got it right this time.
Although it would have been easier to keep it the same and just have people change it again and save the confusion.(PO3) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Member
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12-18-2006, 11:01 PM #6
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
Ohh man, another good Anonymous quote written. Originally Posted by Rick_the_new_guy
(PO3) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Member
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Commander pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...d-leaders.html
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12-19-2006, 02:10 AM #7
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
You should only really have to introduce yourself as the commander once. After that, preceding your statement with the squad name or the squad leader's handle should be sufficient.
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12-19-2006, 03:29 AM #8
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
You know.. What do you do when you have 2 squads who don't follow orders at all? That happened to me tonight and that was my only loss the night for 3/4 games of CO'ing. I had to ask one "vet" non-TG squad to move to a back flag to protect it and I got cursed at because it was to far across the bored.
It was a very frustrating round for the first time as CO and I felt kinda bad for issuing that order to that "vet" squad.
Whats a CO to do? I let things linger, I just need to move on and get over it
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
Thanks Bommando. I been trying to read as much as possible. I guess that one did miss my eyes. I'll keep up TS for that reason. Other that that I never used it so I kept it off.
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
Interesting to note...that Bommando's post and mine are similiar...in different locations...hmmmm. You ever notice how you never see xprmnt626 and Bommando in the same place at the same time.... Originally Posted by Eroak
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
Great ideas for communication standards. I think most of our regular commanders have taken to habit of calling out squads by number.
You know - it's too bad there's no way to restrict the CO chair to someone with a mic.
Let's talk about some other things that may make the CO's life easier though...I want to get some opinions on the EMP strike...
I find that I've been typically reserving the EMP strike for use on enemy high priority vehicles, like walkers or tanks. But lately, I'm thinking that there may be better uses for it. The effect that the EMP strike has on vehicles doesn't seem to warrant the time needed for the asset to recharge.
I read on another forum that some people have have been using the EMP strike to disrupt the views of defending squads just before friendly squads are about to move into an area. This might be a better use of the EMP strike...whenever I'm on the receiving end of it, the visual glitching is pretty annoying and disruptive...but what if I couldn't see while a full squad was bearing down on me? Perhaps this is the replacement for smoke grenades in BF2142. Thoughts?
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12-19-2006, 02:20 PM #12
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
Originally Posted by Thanatos
I do this too. Especially if I see no vehicles that are a direct threat. I know as a foot soldier I hate when I get EMPed.Battlefield 2: Battlefield 2142: WoW: Oblivion: NWN2
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The only times I EMP strike a vehicle is either when I know a squad is being suppressed by it and EMPing it will allow them to escape/destroy it, or if I'm doing an EMP/orbital strike combo. Originally Posted by Revark
If neither of those options happen, I usually don't use it, or EMP an area where a Squad wanted me to orbital strike and the orbital strike isn't charged (also I tell them the orbital strike isn't ready so they don't think I am a "n00b" commander who can't tell the strikes apart).
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12-21-2006, 05:57 PM #14
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Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
The EMP strategy is being used more and more. I get hit by it all the time, and if there is an enemy squad bearning down on us it usually results in them taking the point.
It is important to note that as a foot soldier you can tell when an EMP strike is about to hit as you can see dirt particles hovering around you.
Also I have noticed that if you look away from the EMP then you are not affected as much. So even if I know I can't get out of the EMP radius fast enough I at least look away from the blast.
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12-22-2006, 03:02 PM #15
Re: Commander (CO) Strategies & Tactics
Great reading from BF2
Bear in mind that on BF2 we had modded the maps to make bleed a big deal, while on 2142 it is weak at best.
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