chaf3d

Actually, there are plenty of knife servers... most say Pistols/Knife or p/k or whatever.

As a note, I got my collectors badge in a pub titan server. Those silly attackers never saw me comming!

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TG_Rizzo

Hear hear!

If I see a squad member bring a knife to a gunfight, I'll personally put a bullet in his head. OK that's a bit extreme but if I have to tell someone more than once, I do kick em from the squad.

The other team? Fine by me if they want to charge me with a knife or pull it out when trying to sneak up on me (hint to would-be knifers: it makes noise so you better be quick!).

Slicklizard

in the top type in Dog's Dogtag server.

jonan_

had to check it out and it was the wierdest game ever! I would stand there with 5 guys running at me with all there knives drawn knowing I was going to get chopped up but still had to resist the urge to pull out my Baur and destroy them. After one round I did get my badge though and doubled my knife kills for a whooping total of 41

Slicklizard

Good job, there's also a dog's pistol server but I fail at that. Knife servers are lots of fun to just mess around in.

Dark Viper

Yea I guess all my TG webspace stuff is gone.

O well, here it is, just for you pengi lol

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Elite_Master

Using the knife for a kill is an art and should only be attempted in particular situations. I do not agree with the idea that the knife is crap and you should 'put it away and take the kill' - in the midst of a fire-fight while the enemy is engaged, I have done quite well in the past by running camo'ed up on the rear and knifing everyone (it's quick, silent and deadly). Even in the worst case scenario --> you are spotted and you still are not close enough for the knife kill and you take a few bullets getting close, usually I will still get the kill though it's true it's easy to die this way also; BUT it should be respected.

Hayttrain

The knife has its place and it’s generally in your inventory until you are out of ammunition. Know one is going to deny its usefulness in close combat, but you have to look at the big picture. To get a knife kill you have to approach the enemy un-observed, switch your weapon (a perfectly good firearm) and draw your knife (which makes a pretty distinct sound), and then hope that your target is more focused on whatever it is he is doing then to react to you. With a ranged weapon you have the ability to strike from longer distances and from a superior position. You are also not nearly as vulnerable after you make the kill as you have the ability to follow up. How many times have you caught some joker who just made a knife kill looking at you with that "Oh, I didn't see him there" look right before you unload on him from a safe 20 meters away. Now, if you had just shot the target in the first place you might have been able to take the second target out to. The knife is great in certain situations, but is generally a show off weapon. Don't know about you guys, but who gives up a perfectly good surprise attack with making a big show of coming up on someone and knifing them when the penalty for failing is making you and your squad mates vulnerable. Just my 2 cents.

-- Hayt

Bommando

Well said.

I think people are missing the point of my original post a bit and starting to veer off into posting their knife stats and how useful the knife can be in certain situations. This is not as true as people think it is.

I hate getting knifed as much as the next guy, but let me tell you the outcome of 90% of my knife deaths:

I am in close combat, engaging a target, I take him down and some other guy blind-spots me with a knife. Good for him, but as Hayttrain describes, he's now standing in the middle of a hostile squad, knife in hand, looking like a bit of a goose. Sure he's got my tags, but now he's dead, I've just been revived and am in the process of raising the flag his also-dead squad was defending.

Another scenario I experienced first-hand at Comm Center on Belgrade the other night:

I was the last guy left alive from my squad and my beacon had been destroyed. An entire enemy squad flooded the flag and I was right in their faces all alone. Guess what ... one of them decides to try to knife me while his whole squad has a good line of sight on me. They hold fire to avoid hitting their team mate while I get behind cover. I take out two of his powerless squad mates while he's fratically slashing at me. I even have enough time to get a couple of nades out and reload while Mr. Goose is jumping around after me snicking into the rocks I am ducking behind.

Eventually one of his squad mates accidentally teamkills him and another squad member, then takes me down. In this time I picked up 5 kills, didn't get knifed and kept them occupied long enough to prevent them reviving. I never did take the flag before they got to respawn, but this mouth-breather cost his squad a couple of teamkills and an easy kill on me because he was so desperate for that tag.

Some of you will say that a skilled knifer wouldn't have had that problem, but I disagree. I've seen it happen a good number of times.

The final point being that only in isolated and rare situations when you are not being otherwise engaged do I believe it's worth taking out your knife. Otherwise, just be content with the rifle kill.

Elite_Master

Totally agree. The knife trick is painfully risky and unreliable, and should only be used as either a last resort or if you are sure there is a very specific condition whereby the victum has no clue you are sneaking up. People using it as a 'show off weapon', well that is their right to have fun but I wouldn't recommend it; though that being said I still just wanted to make the point that it is not completely a useless way to get kills, it is just another tool of the trade and it does have it's place. Maybe I mis-understood the original post but I completely agree with the above two posts.

Slicklizard

I feel sorry for this one guy that tried to knife me while I was sniping with my assault kit. I heard the sound and turned around and by this time had my shotgun attatchment out. Need I say more about the ending of this story?


Only rare situation that I ran into that I needed my knife was when I was recon with the sniper rifle. The pistol is useless in my opinion so I pull out my knife instead of hoping I can snipe the guy at 2 feet.

EndlessSky

I have had some instances though, were a guy will appear around a corner very close to me and sprint and knife me with a single stroke before I can kill him with my gun. I rarely get knifed and this is even rarer though.

The only time I really use it is on people that i can come up and around to without them seeing me when they are taking cover, proning, or sniping. I usually take them out with a gun in this sitaution anyway, but sometimes with the knife when I'm confident I can sneak up to them and get the kill with it.

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chaf3d

One situation which i used to get my knife badges, was defending titan. Both lower corridors have to have been breached. My big strat is to run down the lower corridors with main drawn (as recon), lay APM's, and go knifing. Normally its 2-3 focused on the ramp at my friend;ies trying to hold them back, so there isn't too much focus on their rear, the APM's defend your skinny knifing butt by kiling those trying to get you.and you just slowly approach each one from the rear. If one spotted me, I high-tailed it out of there down a friendly corridor to safety. re-arm, and back out I go. I normally got quite a few APM kills as well. No one ever really suspects the outward facing APM from a blown corridor.

Thats a place i found it useful. And I mean come on, you're allowed to have fun. (this was pre-TG by the way. hardly get to play Titan now that i'm TG hooked.)

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jonan_

Knives are a lot more useful on other servers because people don't talk as well or most likely are lone wolves. So when you knife one guy no one else gets notified. On our servers I don't usually bother with the knife because I know when I knife one person 5 others have just been notified of my position. I do have to admit I like the dog tags though and am pretty happy with a few of the TG tags I have

-Spartan`II7^

I usually only use my knife when I have a huge advantage (coming in behind a proning target and stuff like that )

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