Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ...

Jaykay · 02-11-2007, 12:22 AM

... and I only just now realized that Auto-Reload "enabled" breaks the guidance on Engineering missile launchers. AT and AA.

That would be why I missed all the time, before I unlocked the Pilum.

God I suck.

**Lorax74** · 02-11-2007, 12:31 AM

excuses, excuses

Jaykay · 02-11-2007, 12:36 AM

I have to say ... this is fairly asinine. Why have the default behavior of a weapon be to intentionally break wire comms/missile lock after every shot?

**Lorax74** · 02-11-2007, 12:47 AM

I do not have much experience with the Engineer kit, so I really can't comment on its idiosyncrasies. what happens you alt-fire said weapon, if possible?

I am toying with the idea of turning off auto-reload to force me to (a) be more aware of my ammo usage and (b) help train me to pull the pistol in close quarters when my primary weapon runs dry.

I can't emphasis enough how annoying it is to have an enemy stroll right past you and you pull the trigger only to release a torrent of two - two - bullets, then the reload animation kicks in and I die because I told the enemy where I was and that I was out of ammo

Jaykay · 02-11-2007, 12:54 AM

If you have Auto-Reload ON and you use the AT missile launcher, a couple of seconds after you launch you automatically pull the weapon off your shoulder, yank out the magazine, and put in a new one. This action completely disables active guidance.

The missiles "mysteriously" float up, up and away from your intended target.

At least the AA launcher has a multi-shot ammo magazine, and this behavior only ruins your LAST shot from that mag, not all of them.

**Lyramion** · 02-11-2007, 01:07 AM

Jay there is a very simple solution to this. KEPP tHE FIRE BUTTON PRESSED! As long as you hold the button you will keep your crosshair and be able to guide it. Once you release the button the autoreload kicks in.

Jaykay · 02-11-2007, 01:12 AM

Ah Hah!

DirtyLude · 02-11-2007, 10:34 AM

Ya, hold the button.

I'm definitely not that high a rank, but I've always been simultaneously proud and ashamed of the rank and hours to get it.

Zoraster · 02-11-2007, 12:22 PM

i'm a [s]major[/s] lt. colonel and i didn't ever realize this! but then again, i use the pilium exclusively.

perry · 02-11-2007, 08:15 PM

Guess we know who didn't play BF2..

Urit · 02-13-2007, 10:50 PM

Meh, the first thing I do in shooter games is turn auto reload off. It screws you every time. Examples: the 2-bullets as someone said cause you don't watch your ammo. The auto reload breaking zoom. Maybe I want to stay in zoom for a second after I unload my last shot with the sniper rifle. It lets me see where they go. The fact that it "breaks" the anim a lot. If I unload all 3 rockets, I want to reload, sure... but not if someone's sitting there shooting at me.

But yeah, Auto-reload = devil. I learned that in Planetside. There's a rifle with a grenade launcher (The punisher, for those that HAVE played it). You can make a MEAN combo by launching a grenade at someone, immediately switching to bullets and hosing em down. If you had auto reload on, it'd start reload of the grenade and you couldn't switch back to bullets mode until it was done.

Edit: Oh yeah, and another thing: If you fire the rocket without scoping AT ALL, you can still guide it. Just drag left/right as per the normal. I've used that feature to make some snapshots. Tank rolls past and you can fire and guide directly onto the back in a split second. They never knew what hit them.

Acreo Aeneas · 02-14-2007, 01:05 AM

Wow. Hold the fire trigger, great, now I know why 3/5 shots missed! Thanks Lyramion!

02-11-2007, 12:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jaykay Join Date: May 2003 Age: 43 Posts: 114	Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ... ... and I only just now realized that Auto-Reload "enabled" breaks the guidance on Engineering missile launchers. AT and AA. That would be why I missed all the time, before I unlocked the Pilum. God I suck. __________________ Jaykay (FastBK) \|null\|

02-11-2007, 12:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lorax74 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Age: 34 Posts: 6,347	Re: Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ... excuses, excuses __________________ TG-9th Lorax74 Get on TeamSpeak!

02-11-2007, 12:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jaykay Join Date: May 2003 Age: 43 Posts: 114	Re: Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ... I have to say ... this is fairly asinine. Why have the default behavior of a weapon be to intentionally break wire comms/missile lock after every shot? __________________ Jaykay (FastBK) \|null\|

02-11-2007, 12:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
Lorax74 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Age: 34 Posts: 6,347	Re: Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ... I do not have much experience with the Engineer kit, so I really can't comment on its idiosyncrasies. what happens you alt-fire said weapon, if possible? I am toying with the idea of turning off auto-reload to force me to (a) be more aware of my ammo usage and (b) help train me to pull the pistol in close quarters when my primary weapon runs dry. I can't emphasis enough how annoying it is to have an enemy stroll right past you and you pull the trigger only to release a torrent of two - two - bullets, then the reload animation kicks in and I die because I told the enemy where I was and that I was out of ammo __________________ TG-9th Lorax74 Get on TeamSpeak!

02-11-2007, 12:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jaykay Join Date: May 2003 Age: 43 Posts: 114	Re: Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ... If you have Auto-Reload ON and you use the AT missile launcher, a couple of seconds after you launch you automatically pull the weapon off your shoulder, yank out the magazine, and put in a new one. This action completely disables active guidance. The missiles "mysteriously" float up, up and away from your intended target. At least the AA launcher has a multi-shot ammo magazine, and this behavior only ruins your LAST shot from that mag, not all of them. __________________ Jaykay (FastBK) \|null\|

02-11-2007, 01:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lyramion Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 916	Re: Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ... Jay there is a very simple solution to this. KEPP tHE FIRE BUTTON PRESSED! As long as you hold the button you will keep your crosshair and be able to guide it. Once you release the button the autoreload kicks in.

02-11-2007, 01:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jaykay Join Date: May 2003 Age: 43 Posts: 114	Re: Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ... Ah Hah! __________________ Jaykay (FastBK) \|null\|

02-11-2007, 10:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
DirtyLude Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 715	Re: Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ... Ya, hold the button. I'm definitely not that high a rank, but I've always been simultaneously proud and ashamed of the rank and hours to get it. __________________ The Dirty

02-11-2007, 12:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
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02-13-2007, 10:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
Urit Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 80	Re: Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ... Meh, the first thing I do in shooter games is turn auto reload off. It screws you every time. Examples: the 2-bullets as someone said cause you don't watch your ammo. The auto reload breaking zoom. Maybe I want to stay in zoom for a second after I unload my last shot with the sniper rifle. It lets me see where they go. The fact that it "breaks" the anim a lot. If I unload all 3 rockets, I want to reload, sure... but not if someone's sitting there shooting at me. But yeah, Auto-reload = devil. I learned that in Planetside. There's a rifle with a grenade launcher (The punisher, for those that HAVE played it). You can make a MEAN combo by launching a grenade at someone, immediately switching to bullets and hosing em down. If you had auto reload on, it'd start reload of the grenade and you couldn't switch back to bullets mode until it was done. Edit: Oh yeah, and another thing: If you fire the rocket without scoping AT ALL, you can still guide it. Just drag left/right as per the normal. I've used that feature to make some snapshots. Tank rolls past and you can fire and guide directly onto the back in a split second. They never knew what hit them.

02-14-2007, 01:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 3,981	Re: Im about to make Master Sgt of the Army ... Wow. Hold the fire trigger, great, now I know why 3/5 shots missed! Thanks Lyramion! __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th Member "People usually see me and ask if I speak Chinese. I respond by asking if they speak American." "Tomorrow's high-end tech today? Why bother, it'll be old when tomorrow arrives anyways."

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