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Old 03-09-2007, 10:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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How to use the Krylov?

I have never actually used the krylov before and i wanted to ask you experienced players how should i use it?. Should i do bursts go in for cqc or stay back?
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

bursts at medium range is what the krylov excels at. If you're too far away for it to be accurate with burst, just tap 3 and go into singleshot.
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Old 03-09-2007, 11:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

Thanks would you say the krylov is a effective gun?
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Old 03-09-2007, 11:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

The krylov is by far my most effective weapon, but that is a VERY sticky issue. Contrary to popular belief, the primary difference between weapons is personal preference. The damage, accuracy, rate of fire, its all negligible in comparison to this. Now, if you get used to the krylov, it WILL be an effective weapon. To list my stats:

Krylov FA-37 AR: K/D 8.57 Accuracy 27.3%
SCAR 11 AR : K/D 1.56 Accuracy: 24.8%
Voss L-AR : k/D 1.26 Accuracy 24.7%
Baur H-AR : K/D 0.52 Accuracy: 25.3%

Now that you've been a bit stunned by these numbers, let me give you an additional piece of information.
Krylov time: 45:54
SCAR 11 AR: 11:44
Voss L-AR time: 23:36
Baur H-AR time : 10:06

SO, now given that I think its very convincing my proficincy with the krylov comes from personal preference. Given that I like the weapon, I use it more, so I get better with it, so I like it more, and turn into a repeating cycle. Just find the weapon you feel suits you.

As far as suggestions: Burst fire. Three round burst aimed high center will kill a target. The first three shots are REDICULOUSLY accurate on the kyrlov. If you get in the habit of it, you will have two body shots and one head shot resulting in an instant kill no worry. But to do this, you will have to be a true reflex shooter, something most people don't have the time to do. If you aren't as fast, try taking two two-shot bursts, both to the center of mass. Make sure you pause between shots! It will only take a moment or so, about the amount of time it would have to shoot off two shots, and will result in your second burst being VERY accurate and, if you aimed on target, you will kill the enemy.
I've found the three shot method works great for ranges from 10-40 feet. After 40, go for a two or one shot burst. And no duh if they are beyond that then do single shot, it shouldn't even be a question. I've found for long range engagements its easier to re-align the crosshairs after each shot as compared to the baur. The baur makes up for this with its higher damage, however, so its another personal preference thing.
Closer than 10 feet you can spray and pray with considerable efficiency as well. The krylov has a great rate of fire, which is exactly what you need in CQB, just be the first to fire. I've found that if you two are lined up you will have a better time scoping in real fast and going for a 4 round burst to the shoulder area. If they are moving a lot don't even bother because you wont be able to track your target, just spray and pray.


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What I meant for my post originally was to point out that your weapon choice is purely personal preference. Given that you want to try the krylov, I am showing that it CAN be an effective weapon. If you decide you want to get better at it, i've got suggestions.
I DO NOT want this topic to turn into which gun is better, so DONT EVEN GO THERE.
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

No i won't turn it into a which gun is better topic because it is mostly the player not the gun. I just love the look and everything about the krylov but never used. I'll probably test it on sp first and see if i like it or not.

Krylov FA-37 AR: K/D 8.57 Accuracy 27.3%
in this case i have to swear. Holy ****
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

The Krylov is a really nice gun because it's really accurate, has low recoil and has a high rate of fire, it really spits out bullets in a really short time without the gun shooting everywhere except your enemy. I like it alot but I prefer the Voss for accuracy and short bursts and the Baur for medium range bursting and long range single shots. The Krylov is not really specialized like the Voss or Baur but is more OK at everything.
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Old 03-10-2007, 04:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

Vendi what do you use when you can't use the krylov?
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Old 03-10-2007, 09:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

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FA-37 AR: K/D 8.57 Accuracy 27.3%
SCAR 11 AR : K/D 1.56 Accuracy: 24.8%
Voss L-AR : k/D 1.26 Accuracy 24.7%
Baur H-AR : K/D 0.52 Accuracy: 25.3%

Remember the weapon K/Ds mean how many people you killed towards how many times you died by that weapon.

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Old 03-10-2007, 09:37 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

yup. and because the majority of people on our server have at least one of the weapon unlocks ont he assault tree, they usually aren't using the base weapons. I haven't in a very long time.
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:08 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

And it can be heavily skewed toward weapons that you use very frequently as opposed to the general population.

If you're the master at some obsure weapon that noone uses then you can have insane K/D on that stats page. The way they presented those numbers have always bugged me, because the numerator and the divisor doen't really mean the same thing.
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Old 03-10-2007, 05:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

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Remember the weapon K/Ds mean how many people you killed towards how many times you died by that weapon.
Ah I'd had a different idea of that stat. I'd thought it was how many kills you would get with that weapon for every time you would die carrying it. For example during a round lets say you used the krylov the whole time. If you killed 15 people and you died 5 times you would have a 3 k/d ratio. What you are saying, I think, is that it is 25 kills but I only died to someone ELSE using the krylov 3 of my 5 deaths. So the k/d ratio would be 5. That would also explain my lower voss k/d ratio due to more people using the gun. I use the voss when i'm not using the krylov, and although I'm significantly worse with it, I still do a fine job of killing the opponent.

I apologise for the false data, but I still feel the krylov can be used as effectively as the voss or baur. Like someone else said, its less specialized than the other two, which I find to work out as a plus. I enjoy the versatility it provides.
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the krylov?

I love the krylov, only thing which annoys me is DICE item key 5&6 bug, meaning that the rez claw and the pk rockets switch places on the keyboard when you use the krylov instead of voss or baur.

Krylov does a good amount of damage, it shoots fast and doesn't tend to random spraying like the voss. Taking out 2-3 enemy soldiers in cqc is fare more easier with it than with the hyped voss. Unless you're going full auto you surely do not need the extra 10 bullets of the voss, because the accuracy of the krylov is fare more better.

Even if you're fighting an enemy in SS mode it just works great, because its smaller recoil and faster rpm make it nearly on par with the baur for longe range efficency. Controlled 2-3 shot bursts are the key for this gun and I'm getting more addicted to it, regardless of my love for the baur and my annoyance over DICEs crappy coding. (pulling out the defi instead of PK isn't good for your soldiers health)

Bottom line: all assaults guns are great, even the scar isn't useless and in my opinion the krylov is a good gun if you play on maps where the range of combat changes constantly and you have some problems dropping more than one player with the baur while fighting a 1 vs 2-3 battle.
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Old 03-11-2007, 07:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: How to use the krylov?

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I love the krylov, only thing which annoys me is DICE item key 5&6 bug, meaning that the rez claw and the pk rockets switch places on the keyboard when you use the krylov instead of voss or baur.

Krylov does a good amount of damage, it shoots fast and doesn't tend to random spraying like the voss. Taking out 2-3 enemy soldiers in cqc is fare more easier with it than with the hyped voss. Unless you're going full auto you surely do not need the extra 10 bullets of the voss, because the accuracy of the krylov is fare more better.
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:07 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the Krylov?

Yeah the 5+6 bug is a deal breaker for me. Every time I try to give the krylov a chance I end up getting so pissed off because I pull out the rockets when I mean to pull out defibs or vice versa and end up dying. In the end for me it's about consistency and I want an assault rifle that is available for both teams not just one. That means Voss and Baur.
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
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Re: How to use the Krylov?

Exactly. That's pretty darn annoying, but if you use the Krylov for sometime you'll get used to it, though (I did after 2 rounds).
And in reply to Karnstein, I don't think the Krylov is better in close combat than the Voss, because they both got the same RoF but the Voss has it's huge clip. So when two guys are just spraying at eachother the Voss will probably win because the Krylov guy has to reload quicker. On the other hand, because of the Krylov's accuracy I think it will win from the Voss user in medium-long range.
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