Re: Improving Accuracy

**Augustus Gloop** · 05-23-2007, 11:04 AM

I'd love to see the results of this. I love my Baur, but I could unlock the Voss if I had to in order to stay competitive.

**MenacingVitamin** · 05-23-2007, 01:50 PM

edit: wrong thread.

**GlobalWarmin** · 05-23-2007, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by sc1ence

The spread of the voss is quite close for a 4-5 shot burst. A short burst to the head will end a fight instantly. Bursts to the body take time, and in that time, you are getting shot too...

Technique may be different with a baur- but with the voss, I stand by my assertion that it makes sense to shoot for the head. In a one on one battle the headshooter wins, even if they don't get the first shot. At distances of around 35 meters or less, I always aim for the head.

Exactly. A headshot burst from the Voss at close range is instant death. Head/neck shots should be the goal. But, I support anyone who wants to practice and perfect hitting me in the chest!

**Zoopy** · 05-23-2007, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by sc1ence

test it out. shoot someone in the leg, then in the chest. make sure they are wearing armor. shoot them in the head too, headshots are deadly.

Yes, the legs do cause more damage the the chest and back, although only the front thighs and back of the legs do more, heavy armour has shin guards.

Still, the amount of bullets that miss the target is much greater and won't make up for the damage dealt if you just shot the center of mass.

**Anospa** · 05-23-2007, 07:03 PM

I just end up shooting people regardless of where it hits. I usually end up aiming for the center of mass, ends up working out well for me and terribly for others.

**AirTransRanger** · 05-23-2007, 11:54 PM

I had the chance to get out there and give some of the advice a try. I have to say that things went very well. I got rid of the baur and used the standard assault rifle. My kills increased by about 5 to 8 additional kills per round! It makes feel better to know that the gun had alot to do with the inaccuracy and I look forward to getting more practice in. Things look promising.

Thanks everyone!

**sc1ence** · 05-24-2007, 12:25 AM

Please note that while some, including myself, swear by the voss, others use the baur to great effect. The number of voss users far outnumber the baur users howerver.

I keep toying with the baur, but it ends up a disaster.

**Zoraster** · 05-24-2007, 12:51 AM

i'm pretty much the same way as sc1ence. I keep trying out the baur (and actually started with the baur as my first weapon unlock) with mixed success, but I always keep coming back to the voss. I just think it mixes so nicely with rockets and my style of play.

the baur is fun to use to mix it up though.

**Axis of Eeevil** · 05-30-2007, 05:28 AM

I've been using the Baur exclusively for 2 months, having never considered the possibility that an unlock would be inferior to a standard gun.
Having just unlocked the Voss, I immediately saw a jump in my accuracy, kills, and winning showdowns. It seems slower to reload...any hard data on this?

I was amazed when I was shooting from prone at a red diamond (I couldn't even see the guy, it was too far) and squeezed off a two-round burst to get a kill.

The rounds have a lot of stopping power; I feel almost certain that one shot at the same area does more damage from the Voss than Baur, despite what EA says.

I guess I could have miraculously gotten much more accurate in the last few days, but that's the only other variable I can think of. I'll have to go back to the Krylov and try it out; I remember this was my pref. before the unlocks.

For me it's all about burst fire. However, I often lose in a face-down because I go prone first. I didn't realize it was having the opposite effect on my accuracy that I wanted! Thanks!

**Pablo** · 05-30-2007, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Axis of Eeevil

Having just unlocked the Voss, I immediately saw a jump in my accuracy, kills, and winning showdowns. It seems slower to reload...any hard data on this?

Baur has a reload time of 3.0 seconds and the Voss has a reload time of 3.9 seconds.

**Santa** · 05-30-2007, 05:42 AM

The guns for both vanilla and 2142 purely come down to preference. Do you like accuracy? Big clip? Stopping power? For me, I just use the standard assault guns, the krylov and the scar. The baur is too much like the G3 from vanilla, which to me was the worst gun in the game next to the SMGs. The voss is decent, but i just prefer the standard guns.

As for general gun usage, the most important thing is to setup your shot. Its most apparent with the sniper rifles, but every gun in the game needs a short amount of time to "settle". If you run straight around a corner, dive prone, and bring up your sights--well you might as well just put your sights away, because none of your bullets will go where you want. Instead, slowly turn the corner with your crosshair pointed at where a head would be if there is an enemy around the corner. The settling of the crosshairs was in vanilla as well, but its a lot more pronounced in 2142.

**Zoopy** · 05-30-2007, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Axis of Eeevil

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The rounds have a lot of stopping power; I feel almost certain that one shot at the same area does more damage from the Voss than Baur, despite what EA says.
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The Baur does a lot more damage per shot then the Voss. The thing is this:

-The Voss shoots faster, thus more bullets hit in the same amount of time
-The Buar has larger deviation, meaning the second shot may not of hit
- With the Baur I notice the gun only shoot one bullet and makes a two shot noise when doing quick bursts.

I like the Buar only on single shot. It kills me on reloads though due to the small clip.

**sc1ence** · 05-30-2007, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Zoopy_T

- With the Baur I notice the gun only shoot one bullet and makes a two shot noise when doing quick bursts.

this drives me nuts. it took a long time for me to realize this. I thought the deviation of 2nd bullet was nill for weeks...

**Tarenth** · 05-30-2007, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Zoopy_T

The Baur does a lot more damage per shot then the Voss.

Somewhat misleading actually.

Baur:
Damage Min: 22
Damage Max: 34
Max Damage Range: 40 meters
Min Damage Range: 70 meters

Up to 40 meters you will be doing 34 damage pershot. Between 41-69 meters you will be doing between 23-33 damage depending on the range. At 70 meters and beyond you will only do 22 damage.

Voss:
Damage Min: 20
Damage Max: 25
Max Damage Range: 40 meters
Min Damage Range: 65 meters

Up to 40 meters you will be doing 25 damage per shot. Between 41-64 meters you will be doing between 21-24 damage depending on the range. At 65 meters and beyond you will only do 20 damage.

And just for kicks:

SCAR:
Damage Min: 20
Damage Max: 29
Max Damage Range: 35 meters
Min Damage Range: 65 meters

Up to 35 meters you will be doing 29 damage per shot. Between 36-64 meters you will be doing between 21-28 damage depending on the range. At 65 meters and beyond you will only do 20 damage.

Krylov:
Damage Min: 20
Damage Max: 27
Max Damage Range: 35 meters
Min Damage Range: 70 meters

Up to 35 meters you will be doing 27 damage per shot. Between 36-69 meters you will be doing between 21-26 damage depending on the range. At 70 meters and beyond you will only do 20 damage.

That's the easy to understand information which makes the BAUR vs VOSS debate a little more interesting. Apparently the best use the baur has would be CQC where the extra damage per shot will take down someone faster with less bullets. Kinda like a shotgun approach to the assault rifle. At short-medium range it will do more damage than the Voss. At Medium-Long range it will do similar/less damage than the Voss. At long range it will do roughly the same damage as the Voss. The BAUR does have a 0.9 second faster reload speed, but that's with a 20 vs 40 clip size. The Voss has a faster rate of fire and less deviation per shot however.

In CQC you balance out the higher rate of fire of the Voss vs the stopping power of the Baur.
In Medium ranged combat you still have slightly higher damage than the Voss, but you have less accuracy with your shots.
In Long ranged combat you have the same damage between the two, but the Voss has higher rate of fire and accuracy than the BAUR.

Its funny how people use the Baur for long ranged combat when the stats favor the Voss. -.-

**Zoraster** · 05-30-2007, 11:15 PM

am i wrong to think that the voss' rate of fire is faster?

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