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    Improving Accuracy

    Why does it seem like I can fire an entire clip into someone and not kill them but only get hit twice and die myself? Is there a player ability that I'm missing? I usually equip the bauer and play assault.

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    Re: Improving Accuracy

    Quote Originally Posted by mmckee79 View Post
    Why does it seem like I can fire an entire clip into someone and not kill them but only get hit twice and die myself? Is there a player ability that I'm missing? I usually equip the bauer and play assault.
    Practice... lots of practice. When I first started playing, my K/D was under 0.5... the more you play the better you get. I use the Baur a lot myself and accuracy is a must with the limited clip size. Also, when in CQC you are at a disadvantage against players with fast rifles like the Voss. Also, I've noticed that people go downa lot faster when you can get them in the head/neck area (no armor I suppose). I like to start in the chest and let the recoil walk the rifle up to the head. Works ok for me.

    Best of luck.



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    Quote Originally Posted by draeh View Post
    Practice... lots of practice. When I first started playing, my K/D was under 0.5... the more you play the better you get. I use the Baur a lot myself and accuracy is a must with the limited clip size. Also, when in CQC you are at a disadvantage against players with fast rifles like the Voss. Also, I've noticed that people go downa lot faster when you can get them in the head/neck area (no armor I suppose). I like to start in the chest and let the recoil walk the rifle up to the head. Works ok for me.

    Best of luck.
    Thanks, so which is the better assault rifle? voss or baur? Or should I just stick with the standard rifles?

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    Re: Improving Accuracy

    When you usually think you just got 2 hit killed often there been some lag in the netcode that didnt allow your HP to gradually drop down.


    The Baur is hard to manage at first - everything beyond a 2 shot burst is more luck than aiming skill. Check out the Krylov and Voss for some sweet first happy rounds of Assault ownage.

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    It is different for every person. Some prefer the Baur some the Voss. I personally pick which assault weapon to use based on maps. If I am going to be in a lot of cqc voss is the ticket. More long ranged engaments baur is the weapon of choice. Play with both and you will develop a preferance over time, especially as you increase your skills. Hope that helps.
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    Re: Improving Accuracy

    Quote Originally Posted by mmckee79 View Post
    Thanks, so which is the better assault rifle? voss or baur? Or should I just stick with the standard rifles?
    As its been pointed out by others, mostly preference drives choice. For me, maps like Suez, Remagen, Verdun... I kit up with the baur. Even on Belgrade and Berlin I will still use the Baur (a lot of Mid/Long range fighting). On maps like Gibralter and Cerbere, I love the Voss.



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    I stick to the Voss. Whether that's because I'm not skilled or what, i don't know. I actually started out with the Baur, and I still use it on occasion, but it's Voss 90% of the time.

    If I didn't have rockets, I'd use the Baur a whole lot more. But I do, so my need for longer distance accuracy is reduced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by draeh View Post
    ... I like to start in the chest and let the recoil walk the rifle up to the head. Works ok for me.
    Yep. Starting at the body and moving to the head is a good strategy; although, it's best to fire at your opponent's head immediately. I only hit someone in the body if I aimed too low to hit their head, or if they have their back to me.

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    Re: Improving Accuracy

    Quote Originally Posted by RunSucka View Post
    I only hit someone in the body if I aimed too low to hit their head, or if they have their back to me.
    I always start with the body to make sure I hit Still workin' on my accuracy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by draeh View Post
    I always start with the body to make sure I hit Still workin' on my accuracy.
    I know what you mean. It's not a bad thing to make sure you put some rounds into the enemy, but to really work on your accuracy I think you should try to only think about head shots. It seems that if you make it a habbit of aiming for the body first, you set yourself up to be defeated by players who are only aiming for your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmckee79 View Post
    Why does it seem like I can fire an entire clip into someone and not kill them but only get hit twice and die myself? Is there a player ability that I'm missing? I usually equip the bauer and play assault.
    It sounds like you're missing the random deviation. After you fire a burst with the Bauer you need to give it a second to cool down even if you've already re-aligned your target.

    Every gun has a point where if you've fired too fast the shots start going wild. The Bauer has a very low threshold while the lighter smaller guns (the voss) have a much higher threshold for bursts. The trick is that the reticle doesn't represent this very well as it just seems to give you a rough estimate based mostly on your stance and movement which is probably for the best. The exceptions to this rule are the light machine guns which lock into a better accuracy on long bursts and the pistol which is small but has a low threshold.

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    Re: Improving Accuracy

    Don't forget the value of semi-automatic fire in certain situations, but by that same token do not overuse it. Practice when to use semi-auto, when to use burst auto, and when to just mash down that fire key. The only time you should be doing the latter when using an assault rifle is if you are in a point blank range fight with an enemy soldier.

    At short to medium range, automatic with burst fire is typically the best. You need to learn to time your bursts in such a way that you get 3-4 shots in, then rest and get 3-4 more shots in once the gun stabilizes. Quick, short bursts are key to eliminating hostiles quickly and efficiently.

    Also remember that prone is highly overrated and often overused by new players. Going prone results in a huge deviation for a few critical moments before it becomes even as good as crouching is. If you encounter an enemy as you run around a corner and are finding yourself wanting to go prone and then fire, you are making a critical mistake that many new players do. In any fluid combat situation where you must quickly fire at your enemy, and you are standing, you should crouch rather than go prone. Your accuracy will immediately increase and you will find it far more effective then leaping to prone and then firing. Prone should only really be used for taking cover, crawling into positions to remain unnoticed, or when you are firing from an entrenched position that you've had time to hunker down into.

    Another thing that might be killing you in two shots is a shotgun, though you'd likely recognize the distinctive noise unless it is a very loud firefight. Beware anyone using a shotgun, and keep your distance from them. These babies can be one shot kills at close range, which nullifies your ability to fight back. Also, look out for rockets, and get your rocket unlock when you can - they're one of the most useful tools on the battlefield other than the defib.

    Also, neither the Voss nor the Baur are really better than the other. Preference plays a role, but a general rule of thumb to remember is what Rage brought up - Voss for close to medium range fights, Baur for medium to long range fights.
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    Re: Improving Accuracy

    One thing to note is that chest shots do very little damage compared to a leg shot or a headshot on players with body armor. Your best bet is to aim right for the head.


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    Re: Improving Accuracy

    I'm sure someone else will disagree on this point, but don't use the Voss on single-shot mode. You're far better off using very short bursts at longer ranges.

    The Baur, on the other hand, is great with single-shot mode.

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    Interesting, Zoraster. I will have to try the Voss on auto-only and see if I can get it to be effective at long range used like that. I can see where you're coming from, as the Voss definitely does do better in bursts than most guns seem to. Thanks for the tip!
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