Re: What's the Deal With the Voss?

**DirtyLude** · 06-19-2007, 11:37 PM

I used the Krylov some tonight. It does rock, but the smaller clip makes it a two kill only weapon.

**Anospa** · 06-19-2007, 11:41 PM

Heh, I love people calling the standard guns two kill weapons. I can sometimes squeeze 5 if I'm really on/a bit of luck thrown in. Usually average at least 4-5 with the Voss and usually a min of 3 with any other. Just tonight on Tunis I got 8 with the Krylov... but, that was with the help of people hiding near an explosive barrel.

**Fehmart** · 06-19-2007, 11:52 PM

Listen to Lyra. This has been our experience from our start in competitive leagues. All things being equal, the Krylov will tend to win against a Voss. While it may have a smaller magazine, it will see you through a sudden one-on-one with an enemy.

It says something when EU teams will actively steal Krylovs from dead PAC players.

**Ferris Bueller** · 06-19-2007, 11:54 PM

Please refer to the screenshot thread for information as to why there are so many complaints about any kind of weapon on the EA forums. We generate those complaints on pub runs. Seriously guys, for the sake of pubbies and smacktards everywhere, could we try to suck a little more?

**DirtyLude** · 06-20-2007, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Anospa

I can sometimes squeeze 5 if I'm really on/a bit of luck thrown in.

Yes, you are a superstar. Generally in a crazy CQB you don't want to try and push more than 3 out of one clip in the Voss. Yes, you can do more I'm sure, but that's not the point. You can pull more kills out of the Voss than the other AR's.

**Anospa** · 06-20-2007, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyLude

Yes, you are a superstar. Generally in a crazy CQB you don't want to try and push more than 3 out of one clip in the Voss. Yes, you can do more I'm sure, but that's not the point. You can pull more kills out of the Voss than the other AR's.

Totally! In the average CQC, I'll want a Voss over most other guns, but competition play I'll want to be packing my Krylov for sure. I guess what I didn't really mention well in my original post is that I try and stretch my clips as far as possible. When I find myself below ten rounds I'll reload, or even earlier depending on the situation.

Definitly echoing Fehmart on his point; I'll always grab a Krylov when they're out there. Though I think I'm gonna try a day with the Scar and see how it plays out.

**Acreo Aeneas** · 06-20-2007, 01:10 AM

I'll take a M249 SAW vs. your Voss in CQC.

**Anospa** · 06-20-2007, 01:37 AM

Hahaha, I wish.

I gotta fire up BF2 again and go to town.

**Ainselie** · 06-20-2007, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Fehmart

It says something when EU teams will actively steal Krylovs from dead PAC players.

I thought I was the only one who had that strange habit - I can't stand the Voss.

**sc1ence** · 06-20-2007, 02:19 AM

i would use the krylov more if it was not for the fact that i would have to switch up my binds for rockets and defib. wtf is that...

**Aerosecurity** · 06-20-2007, 05:27 AM

Well, if you got really nice accuracy, you can take out maybe 8 people with the Voss at short range (5 to 15 meters) using a max of 5 rounds each person. At close quarters combat (0 to 5 meters) there is almost no way you are going to not hold down that fire button, when that happens, you're using 20 rounds per person, so it just depends on how well you handle yourself in combat.

The Krylov is even better but you got fewer rounds. The EU AR... what's it called again? The one that no one ever uses? Anyway, I've been using that quite a bit too. I usually keep it at semi-auto and use it as a mid ranged weapon. Also works pretty well at short range as well (still single shot), at close quarters, well, let's just say that it's about 6'2" short of a happy trip.

**MDFubar** · 06-20-2007, 09:03 AM

Well, I gotta say that I have been using the Voss and have grown to like it. Last night I ended up picking up a Krylov and found it much more effective at short to medium range. I think that the people who complain about the weapons, just are not very good with them. I see what I am killed with and want to get that weapon to see what it's all about.
Basically, the weapon doesn't make the soldier.........the soldier makes the weapon. Although the differences may sway one way or another, if you don't know how to use it........it really doesn't matter.

**DirtyLude** · 06-20-2007, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by sc1ence

i would use the krylov more if it was not for the fact that i would have to switch up my binds for rockets and defib. wtf is that...

I think that was my biggest problem last night. I have one of my MX518 thumb buttons set to the defibs and the Krylov messes that up. I wish they would fix that. I get alot of revives being able to quickly switch to the defibs and quickly switch back to main weapon.

**Ainselie** · 06-20-2007, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by sc1ence

i would use the krylov more if it was not for the fact that i would have to switch up my binds for rockets and defib. wtf is that...

Originally Posted by DirtyLude

I think that was my biggest problem last night. I have one of my MX518 thumb buttons set to the defibs and the Krylov messes that up. I wish they would fix that. I get alot of revives being able to quickly switch to the defibs and quickly switch back to main weapon.

To those that like using the Krylov however are discouraged in continuing to use the gun because the faulty keybinding is a deal breaker, I suggest continue using it anyway. After using it enough times, it becomes a non-issue. I have been a PAC/Krylov, EU/Voss user since my soldier's inception (after getting the Voss unlock) and I am comfortable with the keybindings. It just takes time unfortunately.

**Relmar** · 06-20-2007, 11:02 AM

Krylov >>>>>> Voss

Every pro mod game I've been in, as EU I'm constantly looking for a dead PAC soldier's kit to steal their Krylov. It's so much better.

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