Re: What's the Deal With the Voss?

**FrankHelicoptr** · 06-23-2007, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Zoraster

Accuracy is second only to ROF. What's it matter if the Voss has about the same damage if even one fewer shot hits?

Zoraster here are your stats for the said two weapons....

...............................Shots......Hits.... ...Accuracy
Krylov FA-37 AR.........19385.....4329.........22.3% Averaging 6.6 hits/clip
Voss L-AR.................54310.....15909...,....29.3% Averaging 11.6 hits/clip

My point is that the stats don't reflect any advantage to the accuracy of the Krylov. The only evidence I have heard supporting Krylov supremacy in action is purely anecdotal. Enjoy your placebo.

**Zoraster** · 06-23-2007, 11:45 PM

yeah, as bommando said, my voss is mostly from the first month of playing. i've only recently started using the krylov in regular games again. i used the voss exclusively from about february up until a few weeks ago.

i think i might test this on a secondary account just to see what happens as you could be right. it could be placebo at least in terms of pub servers.

**Anospa** · 06-24-2007, 09:52 AM

All my assualt time comes from TG, I solely sniped before arriving here. Because of this, I did not know the truly destructiveness of the Krylov, so I only used the unlocks becase they would supposedly be better.

I think Bom's satement sums everything I've been trying to say in my posts.

**Zoopy** · 06-24-2007, 06:01 PM

Krylov vs Voss (Although the damage to extremities is off)

Krylov and Voss are basically the same except minor differences. Truth is, Krylov has a better spread and slightly more damage. The only advantages of the Voss is the clip size.

Of course this can be swayed by personal preferences.

**Anospa** · 06-24-2007, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bommando

BTW: Anyone who tells you they are getting more than 3 kills per mag with any AR is either full of crap or shooting fish in a barrel point-blank. You have so many magazines and resupplies are so plentiful, that waiting to reload at any less than half a mag is just silly. You take as many bullets to a battle as you can handle.

Usually if its above three, it is CQC, so I guess you sorta called me out on that. I guess its just my play style to only shoot at what I know I can hit/take out, no point in getting that guy's attention way down range if you're not gonna take him out easily.

**Razcsak** · 06-25-2007, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by Bommando

I'm glad you brought that up because I was going to mention one very important difference: The strafe deviation. The Krylov has half the deviation while strafing as the Voss and the Baur has 1/3 the deviation.

Since most people will tend to move sideways in close combat, the tighter groupings of both the Krylov and the Baur can really win out in "surprise" situations with the Voss. Provided you don't run out of ammo, you've got a much better chance with both.

This might be why I found it much more effective to drop to one knee and fire while stationary with the Voss. I almost always win Voss-Voss encounters this way, but the Krylov usually beats me if I try this.

Based on the thread, I might have to go back and try the Krylov in the fall, though last time I tried, the difference in the defib and rockets threw me off so much. I don't see why they don't address that in a patch.

**D0ubl3Hel1x** · 06-25-2007, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Razcsak

Based on the thread, I might have to go back and try the Krylov in the fall, though last time I tried, the difference in the defib and rockets threw me off so much. I don't see why they don't address that in a patch.

This is very hard to get used to. I was using the Krylov this weekend and Ainselie was my SL and there were a couple times I tried to revive him and ending up shooting rockets at the poor guys face while he laid dead on the gorund.

**Anospa** · 06-25-2007, 11:16 AM

Just gotta take that extra second to realize what key to press is all, frustrating though to say the least.

**Tarenth** · 06-25-2007, 12:44 PM

When playing on PUBs you try to get as many kills per mag as possible because you never know when someone playing support will feel kind enough to hold out or toss down an ammo box. When playing on a TG server...it isn't so much an issue because your squad mates and team mates will try to top everyone off because they know a few extra rounds may mean the difference between staying alive/getting a revive and being overrun.

Of course the best way to squeeze out the most kills per mag is to treat your AR like an oversized pistol and walk around with semi-auto. A few shots to the head with dot sights of the Voss or Krylov means you can get at least 5-6 kills per mag at a resonable range. Going full auto will kill slightly faster in CQC, but you'll also spray out 3-5 times the number of bullets for the kill than needed.

**Zoopy** · 06-25-2007, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tarenth

When playing on PUBs you try to get as many kills per mag as possible because you never know when someone playing support will feel kind enough to hold out or toss down an ammo box. When playing on a TG server...it isn't so much an issue because your squad mates and team mates will try to top everyone off because they know a few extra rounds may mean the difference between staying alive/getting a revive and being overrun.

Solution: Kill the pubby support player, say you are sorry. Then swap kits, throw down a ammo hub, swap kits back and revive him.

**Relmar** · 06-25-2007, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Zoopy_T

Solution: Kill the pubby support player, say you are sorry. Then swap kits, throw down a ammo hub, swap kits back and revive him.

Sound advice. I use this tactic from time to time. Works wonders.

**Anospa** · 06-25-2007, 03:46 PM

One of my friends is absurdly good at CS, he'll just yell at people to get out of the way or just kill them and then proceed to win the round easily. Quite funny to see.

I usually shy away from actually TKing people for kits, but will go out of my way to make them miserable till I get what I need.

**Zoopy** · 06-25-2007, 04:09 PM

Well I don't mean just gun down every support guy you see, but if your standing next to the guy for 5 minutes yelling, "I can use some supplies!" then I think you have a right to destroy him.

**draeh** · 06-25-2007, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by D0ubl3Hel1x

I was using the Krylov this weekend and Ainselie was my SL and there were a couple times I tried to revive him and ending up shooting rockets at the poor guys face while he laid dead on the gorund.

Amen brother! I'm still working out this kink myself.

**Tarenth** · 06-25-2007, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Zoopy_T

Solution: Kill the pubby support player, say you are sorry. Then swap kits, throw down a ammo hub, swap kits back and revive him.

You've been on servers where not everyone other person is a sniper and the rest assault without defibs? Ooooh...

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