Black screen/Game crash

drunknsage · 02-04-2007, 07:24 PM

Hey all

Im having an issue playing BF and any other game right now on my system. Im able to load a map up and start playing for a few minutes when my screen goes black, I get a message on my screen saying "no video input detected" and im forced to do a hard reset. Ive left it sitting for a bit to see if i could end task or if it would recover but it doesnt. Here are my system specs.

AMD athlon XP2500+ Barton
Asus a7n8x deluxe
2x512mb of corsair DDR 3200
2x WD 80 gig SATA HDD's
LC-a420atx power supply (game with my case)
Sapphire X800gto (agp) 16 pipelines unlocked no other over clocks a430 core
Audigy 2zs
Win xp pro sp2 (fresh install as of last week)
3 case fans plus cpu fan
Lightscribe dvd burner

Ive run through all the general and some hardware trouble shooting. I locked my agp frequency at 66. Agp voltage is set to auto but ive gone from 1.5v to 1.6 and i still get the black screen. Tried multiple ati driver including omega drivers and still have the issue. I downloaded 3D mark 03 for benchmarking and testing and it has yet to make my system crash like games do. My GPU sits around 72C under load so it isnt over heating. I monitor using asus probe and ATI tool. I read somewhere it could be a power supply issue and i might want to go to a 500W with dual 12v rails.

Any input from you all would be much appreciated. This is driving me crazy. I just upgraded from my 9800pro and im dying to play 2142. Buying a new Power Supply is the next step. I hope my card isnt burned up. I have another machine to test the card in but its currently in pieces.

**Sir_Brass** · 02-04-2007, 10:53 PM

It might be a psu issue, but the x800 isn't one of those cards that is really hungry for watts.

Still, you might be getting errors like that if your psu has gone bad.

drunknsage · 02-05-2007, 12:11 AM

I went back and stress tested using ati tool after reading more about video card temps on the x800

After running the artifact check for a few minutes the gpu temp maxed at 91C!

Apparently thats pretty high from what i read on some other forums.

Looks like im gonna have to grab some aftermarket cooling for this thing

drunknsage · 02-05-2007, 12:59 AM

Something else i noticed...

When i run ATI tool and click show 3d view i can actually hear what sounds like my fans slowing down a bit...almost like the PSU is taking a big hit.

Should a 420 watt psu be enough to handle this video card and the rest of my system?

**Sir_Brass** · 02-05-2007, 03:06 AM

most likely 420 should work for you fine, yes. What other wattage hungry things are you powering (like, how many HDDs)?

As far as cooling goes, if you can switch over to liquid cooling, all your cooling problems will be solved no matter your rig.

If you want to stick with air cooling, I've had great luck with Zalman's copper heatsink/fan on my CPU, and I know they make a GPU version. You might consider investing in a Zalman GPU heatsink/fan. I know that they have them over at Newegg.

drunknsage · 02-07-2007, 02:40 AM

I decided to pick up a new 500W psu (atx 2.2) and an arctic cooler for my x800gto

After the install i fired up ati tool and started logging temps under graphic load. I went from 80-90C to not going above 50C under full load! System is running stable and i havent had the issue yet. Turns out it was my either my video card overheating...or something was up with my old PSU....or both.

I cant believe that cooler made that much of a difference. My system couldnt be happier now!

I managed to find a place in houston that had a great deal on both items so i couldnt pass it up especially considering how hard that cooler is to find nowadays.

Well take care all and i will see you online

**LuckyStrike** · 02-07-2007, 11:22 AM

good to hear

=MAXx= · 02-10-2007, 02:08 AM

Yea man, i had that problem last year when i bought my computer from dell, only brought one crappy cooling fan, my game would crash avery other map after a few hours. So I decided when I was building my custom only a few months ago, i put in 3 fans and a liquid gel cooling system, i particularly put a fan right inf ront of my NVIDIA because i didnt want it hapening again.

02-04-2007, 07:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
drunknsage Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22	Black screen/Game crash Hey all Im having an issue playing BF and any other game right now on my system. Im able to load a map up and start playing for a few minutes when my screen goes black, I get a message on my screen saying "no video input detected" and im forced to do a hard reset. Ive left it sitting for a bit to see if i could end task or if it would recover but it doesnt. Here are my system specs. AMD athlon XP2500+ Barton Asus a7n8x deluxe 2x512mb of corsair DDR 3200 2x WD 80 gig SATA HDD's LC-a420atx power supply (game with my case) Sapphire X800gto (agp) 16 pipelines unlocked no other over clocks a430 core Audigy 2zs Win xp pro sp2 (fresh install as of last week) 3 case fans plus cpu fan Lightscribe dvd burner Ive run through all the general and some hardware trouble shooting. I locked my agp frequency at 66. Agp voltage is set to auto but ive gone from 1.5v to 1.6 and i still get the black screen. Tried multiple ati driver including omega drivers and still have the issue. I downloaded 3D mark 03 for benchmarking and testing and it has yet to make my system crash like games do. My GPU sits around 72C under load so it isnt over heating. I monitor using asus probe and ATI tool. I read somewhere it could be a power supply issue and i might want to go to a 500W with dual 12v rails. Any input from you all would be much appreciated. This is driving me crazy. I just upgraded from my 9800pro and im dying to play 2142. Buying a new Power Supply is the next step. I hope my card isnt burned up. I have another machine to test the card in but its currently in pieces. __________________ Thanks to Tactical Gamer...Im still unemployed

02-04-2007, 10:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sir_Brass Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Age: 24 Posts: 607	Re: Black screen/Game crash It might be a psu issue, but the x800 isn't one of those cards that is really hungry for watts. Still, you might be getting errors like that if your psu has gone bad. __________________ \|TG-Irr\|Hiram_Yorik Games: GRAW, BF2142, Oblivion, FarCry, Empire At War, R6:RVS, KotOR, KotOR2, MW4: Mercs, FEAR (XP) Hiss "Oh...crap!" BLAM "I'm down....MEDIC!!" DirtyLude: "If we kill him and eat his heart, his magic will be ours."

02-05-2007, 12:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
drunknsage Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22	Re: Black screen/Game crash I went back and stress tested using ati tool after reading more about video card temps on the x800 After running the artifact check for a few minutes the gpu temp maxed at 91C! Apparently thats pretty high from what i read on some other forums. Looks like im gonna have to grab some aftermarket cooling for this thing __________________ Thanks to Tactical Gamer...Im still unemployed

02-05-2007, 12:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
drunknsage Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22	Re: Black screen/Game crash Something else i noticed... When i run ATI tool and click show 3d view i can actually hear what sounds like my fans slowing down a bit...almost like the PSU is taking a big hit. Should a 420 watt psu be enough to handle this video card and the rest of my system? __________________ Thanks to Tactical Gamer...Im still unemployed

02-05-2007, 03:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sir_Brass Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Age: 24 Posts: 607	Re: Black screen/Game crash most likely 420 should work for you fine, yes. What other wattage hungry things are you powering (like, how many HDDs)? As far as cooling goes, if you can switch over to liquid cooling, all your cooling problems will be solved no matter your rig. If you want to stick with air cooling, I've had great luck with Zalman's copper heatsink/fan on my CPU, and I know they make a GPU version. You might consider investing in a Zalman GPU heatsink/fan. I know that they have them over at Newegg. __________________ \|TG-Irr\|Hiram_Yorik Games: GRAW, BF2142, Oblivion, FarCry, Empire At War, R6:RVS, KotOR, KotOR2, MW4: Mercs, FEAR (XP) Hiss "Oh...crap!" BLAM "I'm down....MEDIC!!" DirtyLude: "If we kill him and eat his heart, his magic will be ours."

02-07-2007, 02:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
drunknsage Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22	Re: Black screen/Game crash I decided to pick up a new 500W psu (atx 2.2) and an arctic cooler for my x800gto After the install i fired up ati tool and started logging temps under graphic load. I went from 80-90C to not going above 50C under full load! System is running stable and i havent had the issue yet. Turns out it was my either my video card overheating...or something was up with my old PSU....or both. I cant believe that cooler made that much of a difference. My system couldnt be happier now! I managed to find a place in houston that had a great deal on both items so i couldnt pass it up especially considering how hard that cooler is to find nowadays. Well take care all and i will see you online __________________ Thanks to Tactical Gamer...Im still unemployed

02-07-2007, 11:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
LuckyStrike Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Richland, WA Age: 40 Posts: 868	Re: Black screen/Game crash good to hear __________________ ............................... Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

02-10-2007, 02:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
=MAXx= Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: somewhere in between heaven and hell. Miami Posts: 405	Re: Black screen/Game crash Yea man, i had that problem last year when i bought my computer from dell, only brought one crappy cooling fan, my game would crash avery other map after a few hours. So I decided when I was building my custom only a few months ago, i put in 3 fans and a liquid gel cooling system, i particularly put a fan right inf ront of my NVIDIA because i didnt want it hapening again. __________________ After a hard long day on the battlefield, you just wanna play some ball but some idiot wont let you because he has an explosive bag of pitchers' powder....

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