OK... I just got off a server I used to enjoy playing on (still haven't been able to get to a TG server cause they are always full ) and everyone, including the tanks and helos were all using either IRNV or Thermal Vision on maps where it's broad daylight. I mean every time someone shot me they had one. The one that gets me the most is when someone uses an IRNV scope paired with a "tactical light" (what a joke). Again, in broad daylight. It's rounds like that that make me just want to through this game out the window. How are you supposed to use tactics like hiding behind cover when these tools (yes I am referring to the scopes and the people using them) seem to be able to see through everything? They may as well have Superman's X-ray vision and you may as well have a huge bulls-eye on you. Also, I'm not sure if it's just my experience but when people use it they seem to be invincible. They seem to take less damage, always win a head on confrontation, do more damage, and get un-limited range. Now I have used it a few times to see what the big deal is and I am unimpressed. First, you lose all the pretty graphics, then everything worth shooting is "nicely" highlighted for you, and all the challenge goes right out the window. I don't want them to dumb it down, frankly I want them to do away with it. I even saw a dude with a shotgun with an IRNV scope on it. I mean come on... really!? I know there are tools like this in the real world, but they have a great deal of limitations. They cannot be used in areas with mid to high levels of light. They are very susceptible to ambient heat (if it was 98 degrees outside it would be practically useless for seeing a body at any distance). Also, they are too expensive (even for the military) to mount on every weapon in their arsenal. I have read some of the threads posted here and I know I'm not the only one that has issue with this, but after those last few rounds I really just needed to get this off my chest. For a while it seemed like a lot of people were not using it out of protest or because they simply just didn't need it. However, it seems like there are still a lot of people out there that cannot play without it. Honestly, I have more respect for n00b tubers than I do for people that rely on these. Anyway, Thanks for reading and letting me vent. Feel free to respond. I'll see you guys out there...